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Having just watched the latest video, I've got to say I have some reservations about the removal of wellness..
Stats and such are fine, and as you're going for a fallout style game it makes sense, especially if those stats are moddable.

But I'm really hoping you have something planned to replace wellness, as it is one of my favourite features about this game, that you actually have to think about what you eat, and nutrition is important. People complain about stews, but they include meat and veg, a healthy diet. Hopefully any new system will also encourage this, and not just be a flat removal of the need to eat quality food for your long term health...
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If you think about it 'Wellness' isn't going anywhere, Its getting renamed to 'Fortitude' is all. A category that is more versatile and encompasses wellness, among many other things.

 
If you think about it 'Wellness' isn't going anywhere, Its getting renamed to 'Fortitude' is all. A category that is more versatile and encompasses wellness, among many other things.
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If you think about it, you are also able to fly if you ever utilise the full power of your brain.

In other words: no.

 
not fair... not fair... well lets look at it from their prospective okay,
the only weapon a zombie has is his/her:

hands and teeth

they can only run at night

they get confused and run around in circles over a blade of grass

oh and some times can pull a ninja when player isnt looking

and puke.

the players have:

guns (different varieties and still begging for more)

explosives

electricity and electrical traps

vehicles to run from the zombies (and now they want tanks and airplanes so they can kill with ease)

they can run any time they want day or night

players build defenses that trap zombies and make killing zombies as easy as fishing from an aquarium

pills and foods and water to help with health, stamina

unlimited weight carrying capability and still want bigger back packs and storage

looks like the zombies have it rough, no wonder they are joining the local zombie union for equal rights. :)

#zombieEqualRightsGate (this ad was paid for by Trump himself... only he doesnt know it yet)
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On the flip side

Zombies can run in circles till the player is so confused in which way is which that the zombie can suddenly turn and hit you, stun you and kill you.

You don't get credit for using the traps, electricity and such (unless my memory is wrong and we do get them)

vehicles can run out of gas while in the wastelands and you are fair game (laughed when I watched a player did that, should have checked to see if he had fuel first)

zombies never run out of stamina

zombies can bust through the walls and make your base fall down on top of you like a ton of bricks

players have to find food, water and pills and zombies are in the those places so you are taking a chance of dying in the process

on larger backpacks, that's not fair, I resemble that remark in wanting bigger ones :)

As for membership for the Equal Rights Organization,

There is limited members, the wandering hordes keep not showing up, there have been claims in players interfering as they are in the same area, but no proof that they are interfering with them, as no bodies or gore blocks are being found.

On Trump -- no comment (don't want to get Roland mad at me)

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I don't understand what you were saying about the stun part, but I didn't mention the driver getting points for running zombies down. I was wondering if someone had knocked down a zombie with a car without killing it would you get point if you killed it with say a club or bow. I also said I noticed that the zombies almost stood up again right away so they don't seem to be really stunned.
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Sorry, must have misunderstood you. I was going with that drivers would get skill points for running down a zombie, but I don't see that as fair as we aren't killing it, the car is. In stun, when a zombie hits us we are stunned and they can continue hitting us and we could die. If we hit them with a car that should stun them and give a passenger the chance to jump out and kill the zombie, which should let the player get skill points then, fair is fair in the area of stunning.

I was thinking that they would stand up but still for a second be stunned, giving the passenger time to reach out the window and club the zombie, shoot a gun or bow at it. If the zombie isn't stunned it can turn and hit at the passenger and stun them so they are then safe from being killed by said passenger.

Should have clarified better.

 
Sorry, must have misunderstood you. I was going with that drivers would get skill points for running down a zombie, but I don't see that as fair as we aren't killing it, the car is. In stun, when a zombie hits us we are stunned and they can continue hitting us and we could die. If we hit them with a car that should stun them and give a passenger the chance to jump out and kill the zombie, which should let the player get skill points then, fair is fair in the area of stunning. I was thinking that they would stand up but still for a second be stunned, giving the passenger time to reach out the window and club the zombie, shoot a gun or bow at it. If the zombie isn't stunned it can turn and hit at the passenger and stun them so they are then safe from being killed by said passenger.

Should have clarified better.
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No problem Janna :) Yeah I agree hitting them with cars shouldn't give you points. As for the stun. I noticed that when Madmole hit the zombies and knocked them down, to me at least, they seemed to almost get up right away and continue on. Anyway as they always tell us, it's a work in progress so will have to see when experimental comes out how it really works.

How's your shoulder by the way? You getting any time in on 7DTD?

 
@Gamida,

It's much better, thanks. Had to stop for a while as the angle I had my arm was impinging my shoulder, switched to a different physical therapy movement and it is doing better, will start back to playing in a few days. Bought a controller and will try to learn how to use it, Steam one is lousy, my son tried it out as I have never used one and he didn't like it, said I would find it frustrating.

 
When playing multiplayer and you watch someone else animating, your view of them is a 3rd person view. Go join a server and watch someone cross a stream and you’ll immediately understand why this game won’t go gold until that is improved.
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Really now? Another lost moment of time, and joke/sarcasm.

 
@Gamida,It's much better, thanks. Had to stop for a while as the angle I had my arm was impinging my shoulder, switched to a different physical therapy movement and it is doing better, will start back to playing in a few days. Bought a controller and will try to learn how to use it, Steam one is lousy, my son tried it out as I have never used one and he didn't like it, said I would find it frustrating.
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Glad to hear you will soon be back at it...I would have gone nuts if I couldn't have played for a long period of time. I have never used a controller as I am a "keyboard and mouse" person, but I wish the way we drove the vehicles was better. Would love to be able to steer with the mouse and use w ans s keys for forwards and backwards and spacebar as brake.

 
Madmole,

Question about the new POIs...

With all the new different versions of buildings being put out...they are very cool by the way..

What changes in game allowed for the mass diversification?

Was it the new version of Unity ?

Was it skills of the new designers?

Time allowed ?

Combination?

Just wondering because the change is substantial...in design and content within the buildings themselves.

Regards

Ouch

How about giving us these new buildings for Christmas...none of the new systems until they are done...but the building content would be nice to open Christmas morning. Hint hint

 
How about giving us these new buildings for Christmas...none of the new systems until they are done...but the building content would be nice to open Christmas morning. Hint hint
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Maybe they could add a Christmas tree to certain poi's with presents under them that we could loot lol....if it didn't offend non-christmas celebrating players of course...

 
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On Trump -- no comment (don't want to get Roland mad at me)

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Sorry... I was referring to Boe Trump... you know... Boe one of the lead zombies... yeah you remember him now and he is in charge of local union #666. :)

 
It should explode with just one bullet, it's a gas barrel after all. I'm fine if arrows don't, but bullets definitely should.
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Yeah, gas barrels don't actually explode when shot at though... well, they do in movies

Edit: it was answered already, redundant post

 
7days in VR

First time posting in a forum. Not sure if this is the right place or even what I'm doing.

I recently started playing VR games. I'd leave my real life and live to play 7days in VR. Let's make this happen.

 
First time posting in a forum. Not sure if this is the right place or even what I'm doing.I recently started playing VR games. I'd leave my real life and live to play 7days in VR. Let's make this happen.
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I like the spirit :smile-new:

 
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