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Developer Discussions: Alpha 17

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ROLAND, swimming realy? Am I not sleeping? We will can swimming? Is this only animation or we can wait normal phisic of player swimming in game? Will we finally able to swim?
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I guarantee you that Joel is not happy with the current animations for moving through water. It will get changed to something that looks decently like swimming from a 3rd person view.

 
I guarantee you that Joel is not happy with the current animations for moving through water. It will get changed to something that looks decently like swimming from a 3rd person view.
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Hmmmm, the way you have guarantee makes me think there is already something done about it but you are under strict orders to not say anything but that you couldn't help putting a teaser in...

 
Hmmmm, the way you have guarantee makes me think there is already something done about it but you are under strict orders to not say anything but that you couldn't help putting a teaser in...
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Lol...no. I already said I checked and it’s not. Water isn’t really slated for A17 so it might not be until later. I just know how particular Joel is about things looking good and there ain’t anything good looking about how we move through water. Neeb’s Gaming roasted the game on that issue. So no secret subtle tease. Just 100% confidence it won’t be left the way it is.

 
Lol...no. I already said I checked and it’s not. Water isn’t really slated for A17 so it might not be until later. I just know how particular Joel is about things looking good and there ain’t anything good looking about how we move through water. Neeb’s Gaming roasted the game on that issue. So no secret subtle tease. Just 100% confidence it won’t be left the way it is.
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Ok, I believe you. Madmole does seem like the way swimming is now would get under his skin and would eat at him if he didn't fix it.

Funny you should mention Neeb's Gaming. I just watched all their vids of Subnautica and GTA IV. Those guys have to be the funniest on youtube. I was in stitches most of the time.

 
Yeah, forget about the new buff system. Summing up, not removed, rewritten (maybe?). But still, the passive nature of wellness its a feature to be expanded, not removed entirely. It can be summarized as chore/stumbling block/whatever, but serious, in a survival game what isn't? If the game have more integration with the system it might make it more interesting and fun to keep up, not the hunting-farming-stew-perk-forget about it.
And about buffs and chores, keep a buff up is a more tedious (and spamming) task than a passive buff rewarding you to staying alive and and eating well - the problem in the game right now is that you simple just not lose wellness enough (and can get it up pretty fast).
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One thing that always annoyed me about the current system is: You could be near death, eat a meal then gain in health and wellness (bad). All the food would be used to heal you. You should gain nothing but healing if you are injured and you max health is above 100.

Looking forward to the intriguing new system.

 
Lol...no. I already said I checked and it’s not. Water isn’t really slated for A17 so it might not be until later. I just know how particular Joel is about things looking good and there ain’t anything good looking about how we move through water. Neeb’s Gaming roasted the game on that issue. So no secret subtle tease. Just 100% confidence it won’t be left the way it is.
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Yeah, I'm sure he's a tough but fair boss on the artists. But LOOK at the amazing details of the buildings! I NEVER imagined voxel could look so good!

 
Lol...no. I already said I checked and it’s not. Water isn’t really slated for A17 so it might not be until later. I just know how particular Joel is about things looking good and there ain’t anything good looking about how we move through water. Neeb’s Gaming roasted the game on that issue. So no secret subtle tease. Just 100% confidence it won’t be left the way it is.
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Neebsgaming is some of the best youtube content ive seen and they just started a 7DTD series... before that i've been watching the ark series... funny guys with great chemistry.

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https://7daystodie.com/forums/showthread.php?74084-Developer-Diary-Alpha-17!!!&p=766360
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Thanks Roland... could you elaborate (for us non technical guys) on what that does for us and will it affect windows users or just linux and OS?

 
I guarantee you that Joel is not happy with the current animations for moving through water. It will get changed to something that looks decently like swimming from a 3rd person view.
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wait we can swim in 3rd person view now?

 
Yeah, I'm sure he's a tough but fair boss on the artists. But LOOK at the amazing details of the buildings! I NEVER imagined voxel could look so good!
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Almost to a fault, since now people are making unfair comparisons with non-voxel games like Skyrim instead of MineCraft. :doh:

 
wait we can swim in 3rd person view now?
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When playing multiplayer and you watch someone else animating, your view of them is a 3rd person view. Go join a server and watch someone cross a stream and you’ll immediately understand why this game won’t go gold until that is improved.

 
Neebsgaming is some of the best youtube content ive seen and they just started a 7DTD series... before that i've been watching the ark series... funny guys with great chemistry.
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Thanks Roland... could you elaborate (for us non technical guys) on what that does for us and will it affect windows users or just linux and OS?
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If you're on about vulkan and dx11 it'll probably have more of an effect on windows systems. Graphics drivers and other such visual gubbins are notoriously slow to make their way to linux... assuming they work at all.

 
Joel or Roland I have some questions after watch video. Do you have answer for it:- Will the ragdoll work with a zombie when explosion nearby?

- Will the zombie frame appear where the zombie ragdoll fell after the flight?

- Will transport lose speed when colliding with zombies or animals?

- Will a player on the run, if he encounters a zombie, shoot down one or more zombies from his feet?

- Will the transport have at least a minimal damage system?

Thanks.
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Roland, do you now somethink about this?

 
is this a bug?

i allways used red barrels to explode beers and many zombies, but you cant ignite them with guns and bullets? in alpha 15 you could ignite them with arrows and now not even bullets do the job, but when i used my axe on it i died, so is this a bug?

 
i allways used red barrels to explode beers and many zombies, but you cant ignite them with guns and bullets? in alpha 15 you could ignite them with arrows and now not even bullets do the job, but when i used my axe on it i died, so is this a bug?
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I think they have a chance of blowing up. It's not 100% guaranteed that it will.

Just keep shooting...

 
i allways used red barrels to explode beers and many zombies, but you cant ignite them with guns and bullets? in alpha 15 you could ignite them with arrows and now not even bullets do the job, but when i used my axe on it i died, so is this a bug?
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It seems to me like they have more XP in a16 than they had in a15. Now it may take you several arrows or a few bullets, but before you could blow it in one shot. I tried lowering the HP in blocks.xml and I was able to reliably blow the barrel in one shot. I have mine modded to have a larger blast radius and do more damage so I can use a small handful to take out an entire prefab. But be careful with things like that. Significantly increasing the blast radius and chaining too many together causes really bad lag as the game tries to calculate all of it.

 
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Having just watched the latest video, I've got to say I have some reservations about the removal of wellness..

Stats and such are fine, and as you're going for a fallout style game it makes sense, especially if those stats are moddable.

But I'm really hoping you have something planned to replace wellness, as it is one of my favourite features about this game, that you actually have to think about what you eat, and nutrition is important. People complain about stews, but they include meat and veg, a healthy diet. Hopefully any new system will also encourage this, and not just be a flat removal of the need to eat quality food for your long term health...

 
I think they have a chance of blowing up. It's not 100% guaranteed that it will.Just keep shooting...
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It should explode with just one bullet, it's a gas barrel after all. I'm fine if arrows don't, but bullets definitely should.

 
Having just watched the latest video, I've got to say I have some reservations about the removal of wellness..
Stats and such are fine, and as you're going for a fallout style game it makes sense, especially if those stats are moddable.
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I hope there continues to be a progression.xml where we can tinker with the levelling system. Customizing perks can be a lot of fun.

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It should explode with just one bullet, it's a gas barrel after all. I'm fine if arrows don't, but bullets definitely should.
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In the current vanilla game it takes 2 or 3 sniper rifle shots :-(

 
It should explode with just one bullet, it's a gas barrel after all. I'm fine if arrows don't, but bullets definitely should.
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well it might explode or it might just start leaking or it might leak and catch fire. you really have to have a good gas/Oxygen mix to get a good explosion.

 
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