PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17
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Some of that is moving away from UMA I believe. The bathtub is likely part of a quest line. It sounds like Alpha 17 is going to focus on story/quest mechanics. With this, new prefabs are added, and certain things are overhauled. That school bus you see is going to be part of a junkyard where a trader of a particular faction lives for instance.
I don't know much about the 7DTD engine, but I can tell you that doing this may be harder than it sounds, and likely will cause more harm than good for now. These buildings probably exist as part of the chunk. The distant POIs are likely just low poly copies of that chunk. Regenerating them is no different from regenerating a chunk. Regenerating a chunk can take several seconds depending on the size/complexity of the chunk. Distant POIs are likely to never be real time. You may get dynamic ones in the future, but you will never be able to see the changes in real time.
Xtrakicking
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That looks awesome!From Joel's twitter:
Now, wouldn't it be cool if it had blood? Kinda like the one in Road of the Dead:
Mhh... this is giving me ideas...
Royal Deluxe
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Botzh are school busses for 7D2D. Thats all they have in common
toores
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TFP probably won't do it. They want you to play the game instead of play the AI system. But i'm sure we'll have bunch of guys performing all kinds of tests and posting their findings on the forums.Heh, I guess I'm one the few that would love to see a demonstration of new pathfinding being done and a explanation of how they made it
SnowDog1942
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Whats the chances of A17 having a new spawn mechanic that lets us not have to do the sleeping bag thing....It just seems like a huge bandaid for a for a system that cant be meant as the final product..right?
dhlmaster
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Likely, there needs to be a timer when a prefab's sleepers trigger. It shouldn't allow sleepers to spawn in the same prefab for a certain amount of time, and also should not allow sleepers to respawn while the player remains in the prefab (or within a certain distance). This shouldn't just apply to sleepers you killed, but also to the ones that did not get triggered to spawn when you entered.
Roland
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We just barely got the first version of distant buildings so it is not in it's final form yet. Madmole has said that they will do their best to make distant terrain sync better with actual current terrain but in this first version it is all based off of the initial load of the world so changes will not show up. There are still plans in the works for the distant terrain feature so hopefully some of these problems will be fixed.
Floating partial structures will probably not get fixed until beta once optimization happen. Right now if falling debris will overwhelm your system then it doesn't happen.
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dhlmaster
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I think the issue they have is that larger buildings will stop collapsing at some point if you take out the lower level. This leaves the upper levels of the building suspended in mid-air. It's like the game engine just gives up on calculating the results of a large collapse. Maybe too many different parts are trying to calculate at the same time and it can't resolve them.
Edit: Nevermind, it looks like you addressed this in your next post.
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DementedCaver
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7th day night
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Perhaps they could get points that the players that leave don't get....by killing a metric crap ton of zombies.
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Survager
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Can anyone translate this into human language? Roland, can it be you as a savior? )*le poof*
To avoid getting TOO technical. Basically items no longer use Attributes like they used to. They are now called passive effects. These effects were in turn expanded to allow usage in buffs and player progression.
These values are now housed inside min_effects which allows custom var tracking (per entity, not global). With that ALL min event entries also contain event triggers when various things happen in the game engine such as doing damage to an entity or taking damage. For each of these events there are many actions that can be performed such as changing a custom variable value, stopping/starting sounds, screen effects, move speed, jump ability, skill level adjustments and much more.
On items, the passives and triggers only fire if worn or held to keep things from going crazy.
So now we can have cooler effects and much more granular buffs all with much better performance and nearly 0 garbage collection out of these systems.
I don't want to spoil too much. Let's just say these newly redesigned systems are going to allow us to do much much more to affect the player, both good and bad.
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