PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17

[Kalex]

I hope the issue with the player's head clipping thru the roof of the car gets fixed before it is released.

 

[-Holo-]

Gotta agree with this, that or just tune them down some. I'd rather be able to communicate with my friends in Skype than have immersion deafening my eardrums. It'd be nice if the auger and chainsaw were tuned down for the same reason.

An extra slider in the Audio settings for enginesounds would be a good middleway to go for those who wants roaring engines in ther chainsaws and cars!

 

[caatalyst]

An extra slider in the Audio settings for enginesounds would be a good middleway to go for those who wants roaring engines in ther chainsaws and cars!

I think it's unlikely considering it was probably added so that it was intentionally loud. Keeps you on your toes as you can't hear who or what is coming from behind. That said, reducing the volume of the auger a little bit wouldn't be such a bad thing.

 

[SnowDog1942]

Do u build the cars? or find them laying around in tact.. or both?

 

[sijb777]

Joel, watch this and see it as challenge
In TFP we trust, you can do that even better.

This is why pvp needs to be a bigger part of the game.

 

[Royal Deluxe]

Maybe he never meaned a Armored 4x4

Instead the new Car Armor

 

[Janna3921]

This.
Unless we get some clarification from Joel that contradicts the following, this is what I understand:

Bicycle is a definite for A17.

Motorcycle is a definite for A17.

The 4-wheel Jeep is currently a drawing and they are beginning work on it while using current cars in the editor as placeholders for the jeep to get the physics and collisions worked out. The jeep is a maybe for A17.

Repairing and driving existing cars as a feature is unkown. I got the impression that the devs are just using them as temporary placeholders but I could be wrong. I've never seen the feature of repairing and driving the cars listed anywhere but they might decide to do it if they are getting the cars up and going as placeholders anyway. It certainly is an often requested feature by the fans. I've asked Joel about this and am waiting to see what he says on the subject.

Boats and Gyrocopters are low priority goals so shouldn't be expected for A17 but depending on how things go they could end up being a nice surprise.

That is what I got also. bicycle, different minibike (I think of it as a moped), hog bike will be in. If they get the roads cleared they can get the cars to work, but they will have limited uses in the woods, trees, bushes, boulders and more will make it extremely hard to drive them around in the woods. Run into a wandering horde and having them beating on the car would not be a good thing, expecially if it explodes with you and all your loot.

The 4 wheel Jeep is being worked, impression was it would not be ready for A17, and personally, I can't see it until A19. Same with boats and copters, not in A17, hoped for A18 but there will always be problems that will delay it. Bandits, remember how long we have waited for them due to the problems in getting them to work the way they want them to? Same could be for the Jeep, copter, boats and who knows, even the bandits could be delayed until A18, then the rest until A19.

So, yes I am excited, but I prefer to think of them as coming later, much later than get my hopes up for A17 and then be disappointing, listen to those who want to believe what they think they heard and then start to whine, gripe, make negative remarks and more because they didn't pay attention to what was said. Partly, maybe, because it was hard to hear and understand over the loud noise of the bikes.

Just my two cents on what I could hear.

 

[crazywildfire]

That is what I got also. bicycle, different minibike (I think of it as a moped), hog bike will be in. If they get the roads cleared they can get the cars to work, but they will have limited uses in the woods, trees, bushes, boulders and more will make it extremely hard to drive them around in the woods. Run into a wandering horde and having them beating on the car would not be a good thing, expecially if it explodes with you and all your loot. The 4 wheel Jeep is being worked, impression was it would not be ready for A17, and personally, I can't see it until A19. Same with boats and copters, not in A17, hoped for A18 but there will always be problems that will delay it. Bandits, remember how long we have waited for them due to the problems in getting them to work the way they want them to? Same could be for the Jeep, copter, boats and who knows, even the bandits could be delayed until A18, then the rest until A19.

So, yes I am excited, but I prefer to think of them as coming later, much later than get my hopes up for A17 and then be disappointing, listen to those who want to believe what they think they heard and then start to whine, gripe, make negative remarks and more because they didn't pay attention to what was said. Partly, maybe, because it was hard to hear and understand over the loud noise of the bikes.

Just my two cents on what I could hear.

If it isn't ready so be it I will understand.

But with that said at 12:50 he said it was ready and on top of that he said he wasn't going to show off stuff this time around that isn't going to be in A17. So I would think that the 4x4 will be in A17. Maybe will still need work as far as those weapon mods and stuff for it might not be ready but the vehicle it self should be in.

But like I said if it isn't then so be it I personally would understand and not pay it no mind.

 

[Quantum Blue]

Check out new player animations and vehicles!

mm: Thank you so much for this. Ok, maybe not. My knees and elbows now hurt. Can't wait for A17. Does anyone know if there are any cryogenic companies that have progressed past the need to remove your head from your body?

Notes:

1. Awesome to be able to walk over or even drive a hog over a bridge - and not have it collapse. (I couldn't have been the only one...)

2. Bicycle wheelies! (intentional or not...)

3. Please make sure Michonne gets her Katana back.

So glad to be a part of this. Thank you Fun Pimps.

 

[Royal Deluxe]

Does anyone know if there are any cryogenic companies that have progressed past the need to remove your head from your body?.

All you need is a car

 

[KingSlayerGM]

Now that we know that they are reworking animations, I'd really like to know if any more are coming. Like swimming, climbing ladders...

btw I am really looking forward to legendary weapons!

 

[Menace312]

-snip-

btw I am really looking forward to legendary weapons!

Yep, that's gonna be fun.

But even more excited for the different type of "parts" for the same gun. So one type of gun can behave in different ways...

That's gonna be epic!

 

[crazywildfire]

Know it isn't going to be A17 but the thought of reworking water adding boats can anyone say piranhas? Lol

 

[Anabella]

I think it's unlikely considering it was probably added so that it was intentionally loud. Keeps you on your toes as you can't hear who or what is coming from behind. That said, reducing the volume of the auger a little bit wouldn't be such a bad thing.

Not thinking it is completely unlikely. They are embarrassing the streaming side of things and realizing how much it can help spread and promote a game. If they want their new motorized stuff promoted then streamers are going to have to be able to talk over the motors when riding or doing stuff. A silent stream is a dead stream and won't promote anything to anyone.

 

[caatalyst]

Not thinking it is completely unlikely. They are embarrassing the streaming side of things and realizing how much it can help spread and promote a game. If they want their new motorized stuff promoted then streamers are going to have to be able to talk over the motors when riding or doing stuff. A silent stream is a dead stream and won't promote anything to anyone.

That's fair enough I respect that. As I said it definitely could come down a bit. When i'm augering I run with the game sounds at 6% so i can hear folks on discord

I do play PVP though and if they start to provide independent volume controls for tools and vehicles in the game we could end up with some players having an advantage over others and you would just end up with everybody turning off the sound of the auger / car.

I guess the best way around it would just be to make the auger and vehicles significantly quieter for everyone.

 

[Professor-Pip]

Know it isn't going to be A17 but the thought of reworking water adding boats can anyone say piranhas? Lol

Some days I feel like I’m the only one out here who wants 7d2d to be a semi-accurate mirror of our world. I want to be able to accept the wildlife as “natural” and I cannot come up with a believable storyline that explains why piranha are infesting the lakes and rivers of this Navezgane. Likewise I am glad the Behemoth was cut since it move too far into sci fi realms for my tastes. And as awesome as Starvation Mod looks, rhinos and jackals are immersion breaking for me. Yes I can believe some animals escaped from a zoo, but not as many as I’ve seen in LetsPlays.

Keep it straightforward and believable Pimps

-Pip

 

[The-Walking-Dad]

Some days I feel like I’m the only one out here who wants 7d2d to be a semi-accurate mirror of our world. I want to be able to accept the wildlife as “natural” and I cannot come up with a believable storyline that explains why piranha are infesting the lakes and rivers of this Navezgane. Likewise I am glad the Behemoth was cut since it move too far into sci fi realms for my tastes. And as awesome as Starvation Mod looks, rhinos and jackals are immersion breaking for me. Yes I can believe some animals escaped from a zoo, but not as many as I’ve seen in LetsPlays.
Keep it straightforward and believable Pimps

-Pip

You are far from alone, professor.

 

[crazywildfire]

Some days I feel like I’m the only one out here who wants 7d2d to be a semi-accurate mirror of our world. I want to be able to accept the wildlife as “natural” and I cannot come up with a believable storyline that explains why piranha are infesting the lakes and rivers of this Navezgane. Likewise I am glad the Behemoth was cut since it move too far into sci fi realms for my tastes. And as awesome as Starvation Mod looks, rhinos and jackals are immersion breaking for me. Yes I can believe some animals escaped from a zoo, but not as many as I’ve seen in LetsPlays.
Keep it straightforward and believable Pimps

-Pip

Agree but at the same time a water threat would be nice and this would be better then a zombie shark in a lake lol. How they end up here would be a question but a piranha is in a way like a zombie they we will eat and attack you any chance they get lol.

 

[Xtrakicking]

Damn, those vehicles and animations are looking great!! These updates are getting me really excited. Keep it up!

 

[Maharin]

Some days I feel like I’m the only one out here who wants 7d2d to be a semi-accurate mirror of our world. I want to be able to accept the wildlife as “natural” and I cannot come up with a believable storyline that explains why piranha are infesting the lakes and rivers of this Navezgane. Likewise I am glad the Behemoth was cut since it move too far into sci fi realms for my tastes. And as awesome as Starvation Mod looks, rhinos and jackals are immersion breaking for me. Yes I can believe some animals escaped from a zoo, but not as many as I’ve seen in LetsPlays.
Keep it straightforward and believable Pimps

-Pip

There are significant limitations to this way of thinking.

Navezgane is in Arizona while random gen may not be (it could be whatever your imagination accepts). Also, crafting imposes many suspensions of disbelief to be able to manage resources in a way that doesn't require YEARS to build a base (realistic, sure, but not all fun). And there are countless other examples of situations that might be realistic but certainly are not fun. Breaking a leg, a real possibility in many situations, would mean a long-suffering death for most people in this apocalyptic setting. Running around in bare feet to start (or even cloth slippers) would certainly mean getting cuts and bruises that could lead to infections. Getting an infection could itself be certain death in this environment.

It's not at all realistic that your average person could make a forge and then use scrap bits of brass to make usable bullet casings, combine them with lead chunks and gunpowder and make a bullet that won't explode in their face when used in a gun. Maybe 0.001% of people on the planet could pull it off.

Net result is that there has to be careful consideration on how you balance realism with "fun to play". I don't really find changing diapers enjoyable but when my kids were young I had to do it anyway. Just because it's based on reality doesn't make it fun to do or simulate. Compromises have to be made.