PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17

[Arma Rex]

Whuut ?the steel and iron spike wich can be activated when triggered by sense or manual to kill zombies ?

I think he means spikes that pop up from the ground when triggered. I think that could make it...

 

[Gamida]

heh but you said it yourself. You were the only one, that you know of, that harvested it... thief!!! You hoarded it all! You.. You.. Robber Barren! Woe to thee, woe to thee... <jk> layful:

hahaha, true, but in my defense, no one else bothered to go up that way...and the biome was a huge one...would be like russia on a world map...plus the others had over 400,000 gas...but they had multiple players and I was all alone... :sorrow:

 

[Crater Creator]

We have random loot containers in random locations.

Unless I'm missing something, or you're referring to new stuff in A17... then only sort of.

Random locations implies the containers aren't in the same locations every time. In Alpha 16 anyway, the only randomization I know of are the helper blocks. The level designer places a helper block in a PoI prefab, and at runtime the game turns it into one of these things.

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<!-- Replace the lootHouse with one of the following -->
<placeholder name="lootHouseHelper">
	<block name="cntTrashPile01"/>
	<block name="cntTrashPile02"/>
	<block name="cntTrashPile03"/>
	<block name="cntTrashPile04"/>
	<block name="cntTrashPile05"/>
	<block name="cntTrashPile06"/>
	<block name="cntTrashPile07"/>
	<block name="cntTrashPile08"/>
	<block name="cntTrashPile09"/>
	<block name="cntChest01"/>
	<block name="cntCardboardBox"/>
	<block name="cntBin"/>
	<block name="cntSuitcase"/>
	<block name="cntBackpack01"/>
	<block name="cntBackpack02"/>
	<block name="cntBackpack03"/>
	<block name="cntDuffle01"/>
	<block name="cntSportsBag01"/>
	<block name="cntSportsBag02"/>
	<block name="cntPurse01"/>
</placeholder>

Trash piles in the wilderness spawn at random locations, but that doesn't help randomize PoIs. Again, we may already have the needed functionality to do this, if air blocks were added to the list, and level designers accounted for not every helper block turning into something when populating PoIs.

The next generation of this system would be to group a number of blocks together. Then you could randomly mix and match so that sometimes the wall of path-blocking prepper/hoarder junk is there, and sometimes the room is barren/abandoned.

 

[wicketness]

awesome video i like the dungeon crawl idea, A17 i might just have to start playing full time i can already see the race tracks being built for contests yay!!! keep it up guys

 

[crazywildfire]

Who cares about why they have pallets in the basement. I am honestly glad THe fun pimps are updating their old pois its something most devs wouldn't do. Go though the house the intended way. That's what I'm gonna do when this comes to console.

I think that is where you are missing the point. It is just a way to go in not really intended. If it was intended to go in the way he did in the video then why have a front door you can bust down. When he jumped out the hole on the 2nd floor and went around why have a door you can bust down that leads to the same spot. It is just an option something to add to the game if you wish to do so but doesn't mean you have to or need to force people to do so. This game is about playing as you wish to a degree. Well on pc you pretty much can play as you wish.

The other thing I wanna point out is and before I say it I play both pc and console so this isn't some kind of put console down or anything like that but no guarantee that this will come to console. Console is limited to what it can do as it is and sure I love to see everything from pc to console but not everything will make it. If they are able to get everything on console then great and I will be really surprised but I wouldn't get hopes up on anything until they release it.

 

[chaosterone]

Sounds like you think these things will come for 100% sure, i dont think so.And he will give no ETA´s thats sure.

But a Minigun would be cool

6,000 rounds per minute

means 100 rounds per second

50 Rounds if you hit the firebutton

5 Seconds per Stack ammo

I allready can imagine all the cries that the player cant use it the whole Hordenight, and that all corpses disappear^^

Maybe they'll add the minigun to the supply plane. It makes sense those guys on board would shoot at anything that moves.

 

[NIN]

alpha 17 gents and gals its gonna be glorious

 

[JCrook1028]

So people are complaining about pallets in the basement now? This is why Madmole is reluctant to share videos these days. There is nothing wrong with having pallets in your basement. I had them in my garage. They help keep things dry in the event of minor flooding. The new houses looked great. I hope they make it to random gen.

And the ones in the attic are for minor flooding as well? And the ones that are stacked two pallets high in the basement? Say what ya want, they make zero sense in those spots. What you call complaining I call helpful advice to move the game in a positive direction. Yes there are things that break immersion. Yes some are necessary. However, others are not and can easily be avoided or fixed.

 

[dcsobral]

Desert = Yucca, Aloe, Oil Shale,Sand and fast Digging (good for large Bases)Snow Biome = Lumberjack Zombies, Snow, easy to find Bird nests, realy nice athmosphere

Green Biomes = Clay

Thats all i have in mind this moment.

No reason to visit the rest^^

Wasteland = Easy iron everywhere, dozens of cars, electricity poles (wrench for steel), nitrate potassium as main ore vein underground

Burnt Forest = Coal on every wood source, shale, nitrate and coal open sky ores, diggable fertilized soil, the easiest zombies

 

[sijb777]

As much as I love it oil shale in the desert needs to be nerfed... It is pretty easy to get hundreds of barrels made from it. On the main server I play on I have about 1.5k barrels...

 

[Royal Deluxe]

As much as I love it oil shale in the desert needs to be nerfed... It is pretty easy to get hundreds of barrels made from it. On the main server I play on I have about 1.5k barrels...

Same time some player claim they searched >10 Hours and never found oilshale ^^

 

[Arma Rex]

Same time some player claim they searched >10 Hours and never found oilshale ^^

True. 1st Time I played 7dtd I was on like day 100 and found my first oil shale.

 

[Bubo]

Thanks for the video Madmole, the houses look amazing. The barred windows, high ceilings and sleeping vulture idea are nice additions. And that prefab editor/browser! :becky:

 

[dcsobral]

As much as I love it oil shale in the desert needs to be nerfed... It is pretty easy to get hundreds of barrels made from it. On the main server I play on I have about 1.5k barrels...

DON'T NERF IT! Not my fault you only use shale for gas, but have you seen how much shale you need for asphalt? And it's not like you use asphalt on 10x10 bases. No, you use it on 250x10 bridges.

 

[Bubo]

mmm prefabs with hidden trigger plates and shotgun turrets

Having at least some New looking textures would also be nice..It would be wonderful if we had access to our own texture map and could add in some player-created textures.

I can get on board with these and the 1 block ingress of old.

I go into the burned biome for the free fertilizer early on. plus fast wrench finding

Wasteland = Easy iron everywhere, dozens of cars, electricity poles (wrench for steel)

I get fertilizer from there also. I'll look out for those wrenches and electricity pole steel. Thanks for the tips.

 

[sijb777]

DON'T NERF IT! Not my fault you only use shale for gas, but have you seen how much shale you need for asphalt? And it's not like you use asphalt on 10x10 bases. No, you use it on 250x10 bridges.

They could always reduce the amount you need for asphalt.

 

[sijb777]

Same time some player claim they searched >10 Hours and never found oilshale ^^

If you dig a hole directly to bedrock in the desert you hit a huge patch of oil shale and iron in about one out of every 3 holes.... 20 minutes into digging in said patch you end up with 3 or 4 stacks of shale.

 

[dcsobral]

I get fertilizer from there also. I'll look out for those wrenches and electricity pole steel. Thanks for the tips.

I don't mean there are wrenches, I mean you can use a wrench on the electricity poles to get steel (and forged iron and mechanical parts). This is what you are looking for:

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You can find them on the ground, as well as like this:

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[Bubo]

I don't mean there are wrenches, I mean you can use a wrench on the electricity poles to get steel (and forged iron and mechanical parts). This is what you are looking for..

Yes I understood you. I gave a two-post answer there that could have been clearer, no worries lol. Appreciate the time you put in on that though :tickled_pink: thanks.

 

[crazywildfire]

If you dig a hole directly to bedrock in the desert you hit a huge patch of oil shale and iron in about one out of every 3 holes.... 20 minutes into digging in said patch you end up with 3 or 4 stacks of shale.

It is a win lose battle. So you nerf this and reduce this and that or just leave as it is. All the vehicles that are about to be added will need gas besides the bike. As said the asphalt needs it. The generator needs it. Chainsaw and aurgar needs it. No telling what else might need it down the road. Depending on how you play with respawn loot plus how many people on the game I really don't think it is that bad the way it is. You might find it as a bunch maybe you don't use it but to put gas in minibike I don't know but others just can't find enough because they use it for everything plus building design.

This is the only biome that has it. So if it is nerf let's go with iron it is all over the map that is just crazy it needs to be nerf we just have to much of it..... get the point? Personally say it is fine the way it is in my opinion.