PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17

[ualldierealgood]

While the bike looks nice its pointless unless it has significant differences to the mini bike. If it actually kills zeds when running into them, has larger storage that would be okay but if it allows 2 player transport then it would be worthwhile.

 

[beerfly]

Would be nice if you can kill zombies plowing through them, will bring the carnage to another level. Though, if bike takes damage will be awesome.

I mean, riding the plowing bike through a horde and suddenly it starts falling apart and suddenly you see yourself running yelling 'oh crap, oh crap, oh crap '. With the handlebars in one hand.

 

[JaxTeller718]

Look. It's best to let this go. Here's the truth.
1. Some of the TFP moderators, TFP themselves, and mod makers have taken to an attitude of "Take your opinion and mod it!". From the TFP perspective and moderators, I chalk it up to largely a point of "We can't do EVERYTHING!". That and pleasing everyone isn't possible. Just isn't. So giving them a bit of a break and an out on directions they're not willing to commit to at this time is absolutely fair. Granted, there's a form of dialogue, that's not always professional, that, sorry man, Madmole demonstrates and there by encourages. It's a blunt and sometimes rude form of communication, but that's how it is here. Need a bit of thick skin to have conversational conflict here.

2. Yes. There are SOME, not all, modders that are about as snobby and trollish as it gets. With wonderful system admin god complex persona's. Which basically makes them out to be little more than trolls who know how to use an IF statement. Also, need to let those go.

Yeah... It would be nice to not feel trolled sometimes for stating opinions and frustrations. But even as I've gone rounds with a number of these guys, it's sometimes just not worth it. And you're kinda at that point.

So, keep putting your two cents out there. Let the trollish behavior do as it will. If things go south with the game, those same trolls who gave you crap once will suddenly be the fire under what becomes an obvious shared opinion.

And cross your fingers that, the Alpha (incomplete) game we paid for, is going to still be the game we want when it's done.

Generally speaking, people like Madmole seem to really have a passion to make this game great. That's what keeps me coming around. Hope ya find peace with all the nonsense and can go back to enjoying what we all came here for in the first place...

To play a badass game.

And for what it's worth, my own flared frustration and disheartened dialogue over RWG was because there's no game out there that I've found that has so much potential, that's already as good as this game is, from a pure core game concept perspective. And it's pretty darn fun to play as is too.

It can be hard not to get flustered when the sky's the limit and someone seems to be saying the best you'll ever see is a street light.

I have yet to see any modder who posts in here be rude to anyone. Quite the opposite really. It seems people love to somehow blame modders for being modders. All the modders I have come across have been nothing but helpful and set aside massive amounts of time to be helpful.

The Pimps can only do so much. Same is true of Ark, Rust, and a dozen other survival games. The way I see it we should all be happy the option is there. When the game goes gold one day, someone will be looking for something Pimps did not put in and, myself at least, would be more than happy to set aside the time to make whatever it is you are looking for happen.

If a modder has been rude in the past then I am sorry. They don't represent all of us. Hopefully you can give some of us a chance to show all we want to do is enhance an already great game.

 

[Jackelmyer]

I have yet to see any modder who posts in here be rude to anyone. Quite the opposite really. It seems people love to somehow blame modders for being modders. All the modders I have come across have been nothing but helpful and set aside massive amounts of time to be helpful.
The Pimps can only do so much. Same is true of Ark, Rust, and a dozen other survival games. The way I see it we should all be happy the option is there. When the game goes gold one day, someone will be looking for something Pimps did not put in and, myself at least, would be more than happy to set aside the time to make whatever it is you are looking for happen.

If a modder has been rude in the past then I am sorry. They don't represent all of us. Hopefully you can give some of us a chance to show all we want to do is enhance an already great game.

Oh I have seen it by all means.

But I hope you noted the "SOME, not all" portion of my comment.

Absolutely agree with you.

There's a great many modders here who are nothing but helpful. To me personally for that matter. So yeah, bunch of great people in the modding community. Unfortunately, some of the less kind, and really, I should say modding advocates as I don't know if they're all modders to be honest, are loud and obnoxious and really tarnish the reputation and greatness that modders typically represent.

They also make amazing stuff. Hell, I'm waiting for SDX to get their stuff 16.x ready! . Can't wait!

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So....in other words....he should grow a pair...?

Omg you bloody troll. lol. You do live for the fanned flames don't you? lol.

But fairs fair so... Pretty much.

Though to be fair, as much of a troll as you are you have your professional moments Roland. lol. Sometimes... They slip out.

 

[Roland]

There are some people who for some reason at an early age took a vow that they would never ever mod any video game. ZT said it himself that he doesn't mod, doesn't want to mod, doesn't want to learn how.

It's understandable that these people would feel a measure of antagonism towards people who do things they can't understand and don't want to understand. Hey, I watched "Fantastic Beasts" too. I get it.

I'm sure they hate the catch phrase, "Just mod it" and they desperately want the devs to put in everything they want because if the devs don't do it then they are SOL because of the unbreakable vow they made.

But that doesn't give anyone the right to go all Credence on modders who are always quite helpful in my experience. The other conversation I moved was Silll's about modding zombies to reduce into soil. I moved it to the mod forum and before you could say "Alohamora" Clockwork posted the edits needed to do it.

 

[sillls]

There are some people who for some reason at an early age took a vow that they would never ever mod any video game. ZT said it himself that he doesn't mod, doesn't want to mod, doesn't want to learn how.
It's understandable that these people would feel a measure of antagonism towards people who do things they can't understand and don't want to understand. Hey, I watched "Fantastic Beasts" too. I get it.

I'm sure they hate the catch phrase, "Just mod it" and they desperately want the devs to put in everything they want because if the devs don't do it then they are SOL because of the unbreakable vow they made.

But that doesn't give anyone the right to go all Credence on modders who are always quite helpful in my experience. The other conversation I moved was Silll's about modding zombies to reduce into soil. I moved it to the mod forum and before you could say "Alohamora" Clockwork posted the edits needed to do it.

That's great news about the code needed! Also thank you Clockwork for the edits.

Does this mean that TFP's may add this to the game?

 

[Roland]

Though to be fair, as much of a troll as you are you have your professional moments Roland. lol. Sometimes... They slip out.

Why do I feel like I had a wardrobe malfunction?

 

[Roland]

That's great news about the code needed! Also thank you Clockwork for the edits.
Does this mean that TFP's may add this to the game?

It means you may add it to your copy of TFP's game

 

[sillls]

It means you may add it to your copy of TFP's game

Sounds great but I was hoping that this would help out the game and make it better. It is after all something that MM wanted to add to the game.

Would TFP's be interested in adding this?

 

[Gazz]

Have Keg, will travel.

The barrel may end up being an installable upgrade.

The Pimps can only do so much. Same is true of Ark, Rust, and a dozen other survival games. The way I see it we should all be happy the option is there. When the game goes gold one day, someone will be looking for something Pimps did not put in and, myself at least, would be more than happy to set aside the time to make whatever it is you are looking for happen.

The main game will not be every game ever.

So yes - you don't like it? Mod it.

Unlike with many games modding a huge number of featues is just plain trivial. You change some numbers in a text file.

There are not any artificial barriers to make modding harder in order to be able to sell DLC more easily.

Look at a game like Spiderman 3. How many mods do you even find for it? Maybe there's a new colour for your suit or something silly like that but can you drive motorcycles or buy and use weapons...?

Modders have the luxury of putting in fun stuff without having to care about the UI, balance, scope, controller support, or flat out bugs.

Doesn't mean that all mods are buggy messes. In fact, modders have found a large number of bugs/fixes which were then incorporated in the base game.

Just saying that modders don't have to care about any of that. Can you make the rocket launcher shoot blueberry pies? I believe you can!

Some people seem to have trouble with the notion of being asked to take responsibility for "their" game. For a huge number of issues you really don't need anyone to "fix it for you". You can do it yourself if you feel strongly enough about the game working a certain way.

You don't like some zombies alwyas running when the game is set to most zombies always walking? Oh, right. Mod it!

You change the run speed of some zombies and... play the game the way you intend it to be played.

Maybe that's the "customer is always right" attitude? Well, not every customer is always right.

 

[stallionsden]

There are some people who for some reason at an early age took a vow that they would never ever mod any video game. ZT said it himself that he doesn't mod, doesn't want to mod, doesn't want to learn how.
It's understandable that these people would feel a measure of antagonism towards people who do things they can't understand and don't want to understand. Hey, I watched "Fantastic Beasts" too. I get it.

I'm sure they hate the catch phrase, "Just mod it" and they desperately want the devs to put in everything they want because if the devs don't do it then they are SOL because of the unbreakable vow they made.

But that doesn't give anyone the right to go all Credence on modders who are always quite helpful in my experience. The other conversation I moved was Silll's about modding zombies to reduce into soil. I moved it to the mod forum and before you could say "Alohamora" Clockwork posted the edits needed to do it.

You sure it was fantastic beasts. You didn't get it mixed up with that collection of fantastic breast s that you own did you lol :-D

 

[Roland]

Sounds great but I was hoping that this would help out the game and make it better. It is after all something that MM wanted to add to the game.
Would TFP's be interested in adding this?

It would be more compelling if you modded your game and took screenshots and video of the process in action.

 

[Aldranon]

I modded the terrain elevation to be less extreme and I tripled the chances for large cities. Simply Awesome!

As an ex-Anti mod person, I would say people are missing out on a limitless world! 7D2D was born to be playable and fresh for as long as you want it to be.

 

[Gamida]

That motorcycle is a monstrosity. It should never be added to the game. No one in there right mind would ride that in a zombie apocalypse. I demand it be excluded from being put in the game. It's just not fitting in with the...............damn it I can't do it. Yes I want to ride it, but I am always the last one on a server to get a minibike....if I even get one at all. There are suppose to be 2 bikes added. Guess which one I will be sitting on when everyone rides up beside me on their new hog. Think they will envy me when I ring my shiny bell...... Didn't think so... (sigh). Guess I can always mod in a pair...

 

[Clockwork Orange]

That motorcycle is a monstrosity. It should never be added to the game. No one in there right mind would ride that in a zombie apocalypse. I demand it be excluded from being put in the game. It's just not fitting in with the...............damn it I can't do it. Yes I want to ride it, but I am always the last one on a server to get a minibike....if I even get one at all. There are suppose to be 2 bikes added. Guess which one I will be sitting on when everyone rides up beside me on their new hog. Think they will envy me when I ring my shiny bell...... Didn't think so... (sigh). Guess I can always mod in a pair...

Lol

 

[KingSlayerGM]

Ziplines are listed in the dropped features section. God why you do this to me?

When MadMole showcased a working version of ziplines in one of its video (months ago) it seemed like they were coming soon... Sad day today

 

[Prisma501]

Sounds great but I was hoping that this would help out the game and make it better. It is after all something that MM wanted to add to the game.
Would TFP's be interested in adding this?

Was there actually a horde of zombies able to stock up and make stairs to edge of your wall with only that edit?

Cant imagine it did actually.

Would love to see that!

Cheers

 

[Euzio]

Bad to the Bone![/img]

Man, I can only imagine once we get this bad boy. It will remind me of Terminator 2: Judgement Day and "Bad to the Bone" being played in my head each time we be rollin on it.

Also, I second the idea of maybe letting the Hog have a larger storage space. Maybe like make it require 2 storage baskets to assemble for the storage space as opposed to one for the mini-bike. We thereby can double the storage of it essentially.

 

[chaosterone]

That motorcycle is a monstrosity. It should never be added to the game. No one in there right mind would ride that in a zombie apocalypse. I demand it be excluded from being put in the game. It's just not fitting in with the...............damn it I can't do it. Yes I want to ride it, but I am always the last one on a server to get a minibike....if I even get one at all. There are suppose to be 2 bikes added. Guess which one I will be sitting on when everyone rides up beside me on their new hog. Think they will envy me when I ring my shiny bell...... Didn't think so... (sigh). Guess I can always mod in a pair...

After modding in a pair, you can also add pink tassles to the handle bars, a pinwheel and a basket. That will get you some...uh....respect.

You know, I just might take up modding so I can add those things for the sole purpose of peddling around wastelands on it.

 

[Roland]

Ziplines are listed in the dropped features section. God why you do this to me?
When MadMole showcased a working version of ziplines in one of its video (months ago) it seemed like they were coming soon... Sad day today

I had my Darth Vader "Noooooooooo!" moment as well. There is always hope for possibly post release or maybe in the sequel.