PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17

[ZombieToad]

I'm very disappointed that roland moved relevant posts of mine out of this thread. Shame on him just like SylenThunder powertripping on mod privilege.

My posts were regarding things that, if seen, may be put back in. I dont think MM is gonna go link hopping when he obviously has better things to do.

You shouldnt be moving posts you dont like full stop. Have some respect for the free speaking of paid members will you? Im not here to abuse people, just here to share ideas and challenge those that put other players down for not having modding ability.

Regarding that bike i noticed 2 things.

First i dont like the front, second the bike was supposed to be 2 seater. That looks nothing of the sort.

Does that mean 2 seats will be a concept saved for 4 wheel vehicles? Im curious.

Edit: @MM, on the off chance you see this, are you or would you contemplate the reimplementing of hud items?

You guys did such a nice job with it last time.

If not, would you mind sharing why the hud was removed previously?

Cheers.

 

[graphite]

I'd like to see the recipe for the Hog. I'm hoping for many sub-assemblies as throwing a lawn mower engine in this bike doesn't make sense.The V8 engine all by itself could be several sub assemblies, just to add complexity and sense of accomplishment when finally completing the bike.

And hey- you know what else needs a big engine...?

Could be a flat 8 maybe you need to salvage the supply plane engine.

 

[Cotabucky]

Nice, looking forward to the new vehicles and vehicle physics.
Would be sweet if we could have some sort of atv or buggy down the line

+1 .I especially look forward to one day putting together a car or truck. That's what I had always hoped for and still do more than a bike but glad to see progress and especially with the overhaul with physics. I love Project Zomboid and love what they are doing with vehicles. I could see that being similar and awesome in 7dtd .

 

[graphite]

I'm very disappointed that roland moved relevant posts of mine out of this thread. Shame on him just like SylenThunder powertripping on mod privilege.
My posts were regarding things that, if seen, may be put back in. I dont think MM is gonna go link hopping when he obviously has better things to do.

You shouldnt be moving posts you dont like full stop. Have some respect for the free speaking of paid members will you? Im not here to abuse people, just here to share ideas and challenge those that put other players down for not having modding ability.

Regarding that bike i noticed 2 things.

First i dont like the front, second the bike was supposed to be 2 seater. That looks nothing of the sort.

Does that mean 2 seats will be a concept saved for 4 wheel vehicles? Im curious.

Edit: @MM, on the off chance you see this, are you or would you contemplate the reimplementing of hud items?

You guys did such a nice job with it last time.

If not, would you mind sharing why the hud was removed previously?

Cheers.

Yes i not going to argue with you but the replies i made on a different subject needed moving to another thread and was not hacked in distaste of subject and that goes for your post's too it was to bring more awareness to your post and discussion as that what was required to actually make it relevent.

 

[Royal Deluxe]

I dont think MM is gonna go link hopping when he obviously has better things to do.
You shouldnt be moving posts you dont like full stop. Have some respect for the free speaking of paid members will you? Im not here to abuse people, just here to share ideas and challenge those that put other players down for not having modding ability.

Nobody like if his Posts are removed or moved. But Rolands task here is to hold the Forum clean. So stay cool and dont take it personell.

Roland try to inform MM if he see here relevant posts mm is not aware of. If mm would need to read all that clutter he would have no time left to work on the game.

 

[Alphado-Jaki]

Thanks, I actually remastered every biome. Some are subtle changes but unity 2017 did a number on the spectrums so it was just easier to redo them than to try to "fix" the lighting to look like it used to. The end result was all the biomes look better than ever so it was worth it.

Sweeeeeet!!

Nice sight of biome makes travel satisfying.

Keep going on.

 

[Moezso]

Bad to the Bone!

She's got a fat a$$, me likey.

 

[Darkfoxx117]

I'd like to see the recipe for the Hog. I'm hoping for many sub-assemblies as throwing a lawn mower engine in this bike doesn't make sense.The V8 engine all by itself could be several sub assemblies, just to add complexity and sense of accomplishment when finally completing the bike.

And hey- you know what else needs a big engine...?

Are you thinking a Bike shop area block say 2 by 3 and as you add bits to say the 'Toolbox' The parts are added to the bike and they appear in the building block as visual reference.

 

[Alexsanderr]

For those of you who want to see the hog in game.

 

[Alphado-Jaki]

For those of you who want to see the hog in game.

Thx, but it is old one.

Joel's SS shows more rusty, and looks cool.

This is why he says that the new hog.

 

[Roland]

I'm very disappointed that roland moved relevant posts of mine out of this thread. Shame on him just like SylenThunder powertripping on mod privilege.
My posts were regarding things that, if seen, may be put back in. I dont think MM is gonna go link hopping when he obviously has better things to do.

You shouldnt be moving posts you dont like full stop. Have some respect for the free speaking of paid members will you? Im not here to abuse people, just here to share ideas and challenge those that put other players down for not having modding ability.

Regarding that bike i noticed 2 things.

First i dont like the front, second the bike was supposed to be 2 seater. That looks nothing of the sort.

Does that mean 2 seats will be a concept saved for 4 wheel vehicles? Im curious.

Edit: @MM, on the off chance you see this, are you or would you contemplate the reimplementing of hud items?

You guys did such a nice job with it last time.

If not, would you mind sharing why the hud was removed previously?

Cheers.

1) No posts were deleted but that whole conversation needed to be its own thread. It wasn't just your post but also mine and a slew of others that got moved. Don't go feeling special or targeted.

2) MM wasn't ever going to read that post of yours because it was buried way back and he doesn't read to catch-up on all the posts of the thread. Plus your post was of sufficient abrasiveness that I doubt you'd like his answer if he did read it. You asked it much more nicely this time and you asked it while he is about so that's good. But you put it at the end of a few paragraphs of complaining about moderation and it's doubtful he'll read through that part to see the last part. He likes brevity in questions. It's a toss up.

3) Free speech by paying customer intact. Your speech still exists. Go look at it some more if you want and amazingly you are still speeching freely.

4) Can you reference where a developer ever said the hog would be a 2-seater? There has been a lot of speculation by fans but I never knew it was officially supposed to be a 2-seater.

5) Madmole has answered that question before. The minimap with the four status bars around it isn't coming back. Madmole likes less clutter on the screen rather than more. The designers don't want people playing arrow on a top down map game. Maybe he'll repeat himself, for you....

 

[stallionsden]

I'm very disappointed that roland moved relevant posts of mine out of this thread. Shame on him just like SylenThunder powertripping on mod privilege.
My posts were regarding things that, if seen, may be put back in. I dont think MM is gonna go link hopping when he obviously has better things to do.

You shouldnt be moving posts you dont like full stop. Have some respect for the free speaking of paid members will you? Im not here to abuse people, just here to share ideas and challenge those that put other players down for not having modding ability.

Regarding that bike i noticed 2 things.

First i dont like the front, second the bike was supposed to be 2 seater. That looks nothing of the sort.

Does that mean 2 seats will be a concept saved for 4 wheel vehicles? Im curious.

Edit: @MM, on the off chance you see this, are you or would you contemplate the reimplementing of hud items?

You guys did such a nice job with it last time.

If not, would you mind sharing why the hud was removed previously?

Cheers.

Not once did any modders put anyone down for not knowing or not willing to learn. Simply put the modding allows one to do stuff either TFP refuse to put back in their game. And or to attempt to put stuff in or out as one desired.

The term if you don't like something mod it. Isn't an attack but a helpful suggestion that things can be done the way you want but TFP don't want. If one doesn't know how to mod they are welcome in the mod section to ask for help to learn or for help to answer a question weather something can or can't be done or simply put...... They don't want to learn or do it but if a modders can be able to do it for them I am sure the person will have plenty of people to either attempt to help or to sadly deny that idea impossible.

You keep attacking modders not the other way around. Give up on TFP tho putting that mini map back in. It's gone for good. Mm stated it and it's their game. So sadly this part you won't like. The only realism of it possibly being put back in would be for those you have attacked and insulted to possibly do it for you. Or to teach you or to again sadly deny it I possible. But your rudeness and such I doubt people will be as friendly in wanting to help.

 

[graphite]

The minibike lets out a little puff of smoke every now and again but what is the hog going to to do.

Maybe a big healthy backfire with a surge of flames and fumes accompanied by a deafening deep gutfelt explosion ?

 

[stallionsden]

Bad to the Bone!

Mad as MM

 

[tuvia3]

now IM BATMAN

 

[Jackelmyer]

Bad to the Bone!

Looks great MM! Will be nice to get off the MoPed. It's been a work horse. But that's much more a post apocalyptic ride in style.

Is a multiplayer transport in the works by chance? Ya know... Co-op n stuff.

 

[Jackelmyer]

You shouldnt be moving posts you dont like full stop. Have some respect for the free speaking of paid members will you? Im not here to abuse people, just here to share ideas and challenge those that put other players down for not having modding ability.

Look. It's best to let this go. Here's the truth.

1. Some of the TFP moderators, TFP themselves, and mod makers have taken to an attitude of "Take your opinion and mod it!". From the TFP perspective and moderators, I chalk it up to largely a point of "We can't do EVERYTHING!". That and pleasing everyone isn't possible. Just isn't. So giving them a bit of a break and an out on directions they're not willing to commit to at this time is absolutely fair. Granted, there's a form of dialogue, that's not always professional, that, sorry man, Madmole demonstrates and there by encourages. It's a blunt and sometimes rude form of communication, but that's how it is here. Need a bit of thick skin to have conversational conflict here.

2. Yes. There are SOME, not all, modders (being fair, some may only be modding advocates) that are about as snobby and trollish as it gets. With wonderful system admin god complex persona's. Which basically makes them out to be little more than trolls who know how to use an IF statement. Also, need to let those go.

Yeah... It would be nice to not feel trolled sometimes for stating opinions and frustrations. But even as I've gone rounds with a number of these guys, it's sometimes just not worth it. And you're kinda at that point.

So, keep putting your two cents out there. Let the trollish behavior do as it will. If things go south with the game, those same trolls who gave you crap once will suddenly be the fire under what becomes an obvious shared opinion.

And cross your fingers that, the Alpha (incomplete) game we paid for, is going to still be the game we want when it's done.

Generally speaking, people like Madmole seem to really have a passion to make this game great. That's what keeps me coming around. Hope ya find peace with all the nonsense and can go back to enjoying what we all came here for in the first place...

To play a badass game.

And for what it's worth, my own flared frustration and disheartened dialogue over RWG was because there's no game out there that I've found that has so much potential, that's already as good as this game is, from a pure core game concept perspective. And it's pretty darn fun to play as is too.

It can be hard not to get flustered when the sky's the limit and someone seems to be saying the best you'll ever see is a street light.

 

[Roland]

Need a bit of thick skin to have conversational conflict here.

So....in other words....he should grow a pair...?

Spoiler

@Everyone who thought I'm being insulting - get a grip. Dont need to be a ♥♥♥♥ about things. That's all. Don't like my comments? Grow a pair.

 

[chaosterone]

Nice bike, MM. WIth it's massive front-end and spikes, does this mean we can kill zombies and dogs by running them over like before? With the new physics and whatever else you guys are working on, I sure look forward to A17! Just keep the magic coming.

 

[Demonoid74]

Now with that bike , add in ass-less chaps to the clothing and crossbow pistols...and we can live out our Road Warrior fantasies! Your choice of blonde passenger is up to you...male , female , rubber or plastic...they all apply...just watch out for boomerangs...