It seems you have a biased view of us "speedsters".We dont want to clear the game and brag about it but instead we wanna hit the hard stuff as early game is a piece of cake.If I dont see atleast 2-4 glowing zombies and cops in my first horde,ive been slacking becuase that means it is too easy.I play on warrior difficulty to make them hard but not bullet sponges and I even play with machete as it makes me have less reach so more of a chance of getting hit.
PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17
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1) I made no comment about 30 min days. The default is 1 hour. The number of people dont play vanilla settings is irrelevant. Also longer days does not "pump out a higher gamestage" it restricts it since gamestage is calculated by "number of days alive" so you playing longer days only gives you less of a chance to get a higher gamestage. It also counts you level so at best it would be comparable if you are leveling alot, but not higher.
2) Having mods by day 13 sounds about right.
I dont play on the highest difficulty becuase all it does is turn the zombies into bullet sponges.A feral wright takes still a full clip of modded ak to down on warrior and I think two clips on the highest difficulty. May I ask what difficulty you play on and if you play SP?
1) dont need advice on how to play, Im well past 6000 hours on this game
2) Wow by day 5 on default day length? Thats impressive. 5 hours isnt a long time. If you are playing longer days but then complaining that you get there too quick, thats on you.
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Gareee
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Having a forge is far from end game. There are electrical defenses, mods to acquire for armor and weapons, steel and vehicles to unlock and craft for exploring.
Having a forge is just a early game goal and achievement, and if you've poured your points hell bent on unlocking it, you've missed putting points you need into melee and survival options.
All this noise about the forge and gating the anvil is just rubbish talk people are focusing on.
With a17 exp, we've not been near unlocking the 4x4 or gyro to test, and the gyro is an AMAZING game changer for exploration that really changes your perspective on the game world while playing.
Question: I'm using a controller, and found all the gyro controls except nose down. You move forward and nose up to climb, but the nose up angle is allowed to be straight up and you then stall. Maybe the up angle max needs to be decreased?
How do you nose down? I'm thinking maybe that key wasn't bound on the controller. I put in a bug report on it, as well as the controller bicycle speed toggle... I think it was Madmole who mentioned before the last update that the work on it was completed.
Playing with the vehicles some, the sounds are too steady and "drone-y"... maybe alter the engine sounds based on the incline the vehicle is using for speed adjustment... so it varies the engine sound, making it sound like it's working harder or easier depending on if they are going up or downhill? (This might be already planned polish, but I figured I'd mention it just in case. )
Having a forge is just a early game goal and achievement, and if you've poured your points hell bent on unlocking it, you've missed putting points you need into melee and survival options.
All this noise about the forge and gating the anvil is just rubbish talk people are focusing on.
With a17 exp, we've not been near unlocking the 4x4 or gyro to test, and the gyro is an AMAZING game changer for exploration that really changes your perspective on the game world while playing.
Question: I'm using a controller, and found all the gyro controls except nose down. You move forward and nose up to climb, but the nose up angle is allowed to be straight up and you then stall. Maybe the up angle max needs to be decreased?
How do you nose down? I'm thinking maybe that key wasn't bound on the controller. I put in a bug report on it, as well as the controller bicycle speed toggle... I think it was Madmole who mentioned before the last update that the work on it was completed.
Playing with the vehicles some, the sounds are too steady and "drone-y"... maybe alter the engine sounds based on the incline the vehicle is using for speed adjustment... so it varies the engine sound, making it sound like it's working harder or easier depending on if they are going up or downhill? (This might be already planned polish, but I figured I'd mention it just in case. )
But they do allow freedom, Ive the freedom to play creative, to set zombies to walk, to reduce exp gain per level to get 20 levels a day, I can disable enemies spawn, want more freedom than that?
Now lets think the other way around, what can I do to make the game harder? decrease exp gain to take forever to level up? that will also make gamestage increase at slower pace. I can set zombies to run and increase their damage. that's all the freedom I've.
you can see the people who want easy way has plenty more choices to play like they want?
also if clear pois is rush content, well they should reduce the amount of zombies to 1 per poi. this way I would level up slowly. they could also remove wandering hordes and 7th night hordes, because how dare you level up by killing zombies? or make that zombie you kill you lose exp, that would make a slow progress as well.
And I am at around 650 hrs but I know how to play as well.I love how it seems your problem is that I am playing 2hr days lol I was making even a few videos on a16 to help noobs/newish players learn tricks to playing the game. I normally play to about day 126 before I restart and go again with a different RGW and a new idea for a defence.
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Thats why on a test world with a fully modded ak and full automatic weapon perk,it took almost two clips to kill a irradiated wright on max difficulty??
That doesn't really matter because I don't claim that the game is boring to me after day 5. At the moment I play mostly co-op and seldom a SP game, both at standard difficulty.
A game with 2h days is definitely a lot easier than one with 1h days (the default). Longer consecutive daytime, less game stage, MUUCH more time to prepare for 7 day horde, even if that first horde may be lame (it takes some time away from scavening if you need to put up a base).
wolfbain5
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actually wanted small bits of notation saying this module controls subbiome size, this module controles biome size, this modules adds to biome randomization.How this works, in short, is that RWGMixer consists of multiple "modules" that are linked together. Some modules generate signals (like the Voronoi and FastTurbulence modules in your example), others take signals as input from one or more other modules and combine or change them (like scaleOutput and biasOutput).
If you want to really know how these work and interact together then check out the link below. It has helped me a lot to get a grip on it all:
http://libnoise.sourceforge.net/docs/index.html
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A little warning though. This rabbit hole can go pretty deep (just ask Tin, he lives in one). Before you know it you'll be pulling all nighters writing stuff like this:
that type of notation
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By end game I mean I can craft pretty decent tools, I can have a farm to get rid of any hunger challenges, game throws weapons at me more than I can sell so Im done with that too, Im couple levels away to craft a minibike. and that's at day 3 to 5 tops.
edit: I missed some of the questions you asked (gonna check them and edit again)
What level are you on by Day 5? (You need to be level 21 at a minimum to reach the max of one attribute tree with zero perks purchased) - round 20 without much effort
When you say "clear a POI" do you mean loot it completely or kill every sleeper or both?
both
How long are your days?
60 minutes
What difficulty are playing?
warrior
What speeds are your zombies set to?
default
How do you account for complaints from OTHER players that the new system is too slow? Why aren't they at endgame by day 5 and not only that why do they feel that endgame is way beyond the amount of time they can put in?
some play badly and most really want play creative to build castles but they dont want set the game to creative or disable enemies spawn. so they complain game its too hard.
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A clip to kill an irradiated is fine. But its not like it was where higher difficulty = all zombies take forever to kill. Irradiated have regen even if you are playing lower settings, "Thats not even true anymore" referred to you comment saying that increased difficulty settings make the zombies bullet sponges, it doesnt.
I have no problem at all with you playing two hour days. The problem is with you claiming what day you reach certain goals as too fast using the non-standard easier settings that give you more time. If you dont like progressing alot by day 5, change your days shorter, not longer. Dont expect the game to be changed because you start it giving yourself an advantage.
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Boidster
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Roland nailed it. The player can choose to specialize or the player can choose to generalize. Level gates mean the developer has said, "sorry, I know you made it this far and don't care about other skills/attributes/perks, but I'm going to make you wait until you've killed an appropriate number of zombies and/or trees before I let you take the next step."
Without level gates, whether you take that next step at level 5 or level 30 is entirely up to you, with the caveat that if you take it at level 5 you will have non-trivial* character weaknesses that may come back to bite you later. In the form of zombies. Biting you.
*Working out what "non-trivial" amounts to is otherwise known as "balancing"
Without level gates, whether you take that next step at level 5 or level 30 is entirely up to you, with the caveat that if you take it at level 5 you will have non-trivial* character weaknesses that may come back to bite you later. In the form of zombies. Biting you.
*Working out what "non-trivial" amounts to is otherwise known as "balancing"
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Oh, ok. I now define endgame as me having a stone axe. Wow, the game just got pretty easy. :cocksure:
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