PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17

lord_ahriman · Dec 19, 2018

The way I see it, the biggest problem in the new B231/233 system is: heavily in favor of multiplayer; single player gets an unnecessary punishment. Progression from a sp standpoint is very slow now and I dare to say some people will leave the game if changes are not implemented. I always thought grinding in A17 is harder than A16, but still challenge accepted. However, the new skill system will hit the sp game very hard. By lvl 70 just to keep my favorites perks and ranks, I need at least 21 extra skill points. TFP needs to implement a middle ground solution or new system may kill sp game.

4sheetzngeegles · Dec 19, 2018

This is in regard to the Random/manual terraform. Is it possible to have the functionality of both? Example random pois, Initial render via rwgmixer, there after ability to manually paint using dtm.tga? B208 introduced it, B221 began removal, and b231 b233 wiped ability, the dtm.raw is no longer formating the primary layer as it did. If it is possible is it being attempted now. If not is is possible to allow the manual aspect to be done using The navezgane folder. That is at 8192 8192 map with the 8192 8192 rad border.

danielspoa · Dec 19, 2018

It is a work in progress. Not sure at this point whether North - South Snow - Desert will be an official option or not or exactly how RWG will end up. Seems clear though that some people like it and some people don't.

just to voice an opinion: I like the more random biomes. Wish we could have it a bit different (like biomes wouldn't change in the middle of a city) but mostly I like the newest update. Actually, this week's updates have been the most exciting for me so far, great job!

now, as a non-important note.. snow to the north sounds so counter intuitive to a poor soul that lives in the southern hemisphere :bi_polo:

Hek Harris · Dec 19, 2018

The way I see it, the biggest problem in the new B231/233 system is: heavily in favor of multiplayer; single player gets an unnecessary punishment. Progression from a sp standpoint is very slow now and I dare to say some people will leave the game if changes are not implemented. I always thought grinding in A17 is harder than A16, but still challenge accepted. However, the new skill system will hit the sp game very hard. By lvl 70 just to keep my favorites perks and ranks, I need at least 21 extra skill points. TFP needs to implement a middle ground solution or new system may kill sp game.

Have the same problem. I play solo and the new price to pay to access higher levels seems a little expensive ^^. I guess it can be modified in the progression.xml file, but I'me gonna test the new system to see where it leads my character.

NukemDed · Dec 19, 2018

now, as a non-important note.. snow to the north sounds so counter intuitive to a poor soul that lives in the southern hemisphere :bi_polo:

lol! I live at the bottom end of new zealands north island. if we want snow we have to head north to the central plateau and the live volcanoes that reside there!

if you were in hawkes bay you would need to go west.

north or south for snow, no issue for me

8bitkronik · Dec 19, 2018

Dude you are so deep. Let me know if you find oil or gas down there.

I usually don't expect to read philosophy here lol

Ayrton · Dec 19, 2018

Someone from the Staff, that of a scientific explanation of why they removed from the game the peak of puas updatable?

The best defense of the game was taken away

worf3k · Dec 19, 2018

best reason ever good explanation. i know i've been upset a lot but i still love the game and have been doing better. it is eperimental after all.

Guppycur · Dec 19, 2018

Someone from the Staff, that of a scientific explanation of why they removed from the game the peak of puas updatable?The best defense of the game was taken away

Huh?

lord_ahriman · Dec 19, 2018

Have the same problem. I play solo and the new price to pay to access higher levels seems a little expensive ^^. I guess it can be modified in the progression.xml file, but I'me gonna test the new system to see where it leads my character.

I have never modified xml files because I don't know how to do it. But, if they don't change this system I'll ask for help and change it back to 1 skill point per rank and I'll play with my own lvl gates (I have a spreadsheet with B221 perks). I don't mind the grind in A17 (which is harder than A16) and I'm not a fan of lvl gates, but I hate new system even more.

danielspoa · Dec 19, 2018

lol! I live at the bottom end of new zealands north island. if we want snow we have to head north to the central plateau and the live volcanoes that reside there! if you were in hawkes bay you would need to go west.

north or south for snow, no issue for me

I kinda simplified it, there's more than just going north/south

I live in the southern state of Brazil, and if I want to see snow I go a bit to the north - where there are mountains. But when I think about the country as a whole or even the continent, snow is to the south

Guppycur · Dec 19, 2018

...but you guys don't count ... =)

JLBishop81 · Dec 19, 2018

That is intended. Any power attack that connects with a block or entity will stop stamina regeneration for a few secs.

Is this truly an on purpose feature? If it is I feel it makes using the power attack almost pointless. I can do more dps on a zombie for longer with regular attacks and the constant stamina regen. Making the power attack cost more stamina and halt all stamina regen for nearly 3 seconds seems way too costly.

Jugginator · Dec 19, 2018

...but you guys don't count ... =)

*snickers*

TSBX · Dec 19, 2018

lol! I live at the bottom end of new zealands north island. if we want snow we have to head north to the central plateau and the live volcanoes that reside there! if you were in hawkes bay you would need to go west.

north or south for snow, no issue for me

Well as long as you're okay with it...

NukemDed · Dec 19, 2018

...but you guys don't count ... =)

better than can't count I suppose...

Guppycur · Dec 19, 2018

better than can't count I suppose...

Lol yeh. That's reserved for Canadians.

And people from Florida.

strummer_92 · Dec 19, 2018

just to voice an opinion: I like the more random biomes. Wish we could have it a bit different (like biomes wouldn't change in the middle of a city) but mostly I like the newest update. Actually, this week's updates have been the most exciting for me so far, great job!
now, as a non-important note.. snow to the north sounds so counter intuitive to a poor soul that lives in the southern hemisphere :bi_polo:

Well, I live in Brazil so to find some snow I need to go extremely to the south (Patagonia) or to the West (Andes).

NukemDed · Dec 19, 2018

Lol yeh. That's reserved for Canadians.
And people from Florida.

pffft!

and aussies

Hek Harris · Dec 19, 2018

I have never modified xml files because I don't know how to do it.

You'll find the progression.xml file in :

(your disk)\Program Files\steamapps\common\7 Days To Die\Data\Config

Look at the first attribute (Perception) :

Code:

[size=1]&lt;attribute name="attPerception" name_key="attPerceptionName" desc_key="attPerceptionDesc" icon="ui_game_symbol_stealth"&gt;
       &lt;level_requirements level="1"&gt;&lt;requirement name="PlayerLevel" target="self" operation="GTE" value="1" desc_key="reqGenericPoints01"/&gt;&lt;/level_requirements&gt;
       &lt;level_requirements level="2"&gt;&lt;requirement name="PlayerLevel" target="self" operation="GTE" value="1" desc_key="reqGenericPoints01"/&gt;&lt;/level_requirements&gt;
       &lt;level_requirements level="3"&gt;&lt;requirement name="PlayerLevel" target="self" operation="GTE" value="1" desc_key="reqGenericPoints01"/&gt;&lt;/level_requirements&gt;
       &lt;level_requirements level="4"&gt;&lt;requirement name="PlayerLevel" target="self" operation="GTE" value="1" desc_key="reqGenericPoints02"/&gt;&lt;/level_requirements&gt;
       &lt;level_requirements level="5"&gt;&lt;requirement name="PlayerLevel" target="self" operation="GTE" value="1" desc_key="reqGenericPoints02"/&gt;&lt;/level_requirements&gt;
       &lt;level_requirements level="6"&gt;&lt;requirement name="PlayerLevel" target="self" operation="GTE" value="1" desc_key="reqGenericPoints02"/&gt;&lt;/level_requirements&gt;
       &lt;level_requirements level="7"&gt;&lt;requirement name="PlayerLevel" target="self" operation="GTE" value="1" desc_key="reqGenericPoints03"/&gt;&lt;/level_requirements&gt;
       &lt;level_requirements level="8"&gt;&lt;requirement name="PlayerLevel" target="self" operation="GTE" value="1" desc_key="reqGenericPoints04"/&gt;&lt;/level_requirements&gt;
       &lt;level_requirements level="9"&gt;&lt;requirement name="PlayerLevel" target="self" operation="GTE" value="1" desc_key="reqGenericPoints05"/&gt;&lt;/level_requirements&gt;
       &lt;level_requirements level="10"&gt;&lt;requirement name="PlayerLevel" target="self" operation="GTE" value="1" desc_key="reqGenericPoints06"/&gt;&lt;/level_requirements&gt;[/size]

You just have to modify the end of each line to have "reqGenericPoints01". But the game will become very easy after that. The ideal, in my opinion, is to keep the value "02" from the fourth line to the last.

You have to make this changes for the following 4 attributes.

I think the points required are really made for cooperation. In solo it's a lot less interesting, especially when you play with a high difficulty.

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