IF you are not a builder, I think first 7days are as easy as, kill zombie, find a POI roof to stay, on day one. Then find a bridge, make it horde base it is so damn easy up there on bridge. just make 250 arrows if you are good shooter, as you get about 50 zed to kill on horde night, so 5 per zed is arrow count. don't enter in lot of POI, just pick easy one, don't go to houses much as they have most of fall trap that can get you kill, Ease targets are working stiff, Crack a book, Pass n gas,(those singe floor commerical buildings) good loot and ease as compare to new dungeon poi house. if you are good at meleeing you survive for 10 days with ease with this small guide.
PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17
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Jay_ombie
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The incentives for complex POI looting has been hit hard. We need some serious rewards applied to this game in the form of special loot items.
Not more guns or general stuff but maybe unique clothing so we can wear our achievements.
Collectible customisable items like trophies etc. NoMansSky gets this right by giving us so many things to collect making us 'want' to go searching.
Us humans are like magpies when it comes to collecting stuff.
Not more guns or general stuff but maybe unique clothing so we can wear our achievements.
Collectible customisable items like trophies etc. NoMansSky gets this right by giving us so many things to collect making us 'want' to go searching.
Us humans are like magpies when it comes to collecting stuff.
jdizzy2010
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No more nerfing please!!!
Jugginator
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Yeah, I agree. The loot system could use a bit of a change there. I started afresh game and found a compound bow, hunting rifle, two wrenches, a bunch of ammo on day 1 and found an AK in a house on day 2 lol. Agreed on special clothing or something of the like, and maybe limit good loot such as powerful guns and such only to major buildings. My guess would be special loot containers?
I was really looking forward to the Alpha 17. I looked every day into the forum for month, to see when it will be released. But now that I can play it, the level restrictions in the skill system and this debuff after dying spoil the joy of playing completely. I will stop playing the game for these two reasons. But since I'm only a single player, you have not to care.
Well B208
Nice to see that fps now stays stable when entering buildings
But fps still is way lower then in a16 (because of all new textures?) .. in a16 playing in 1600res got around 40fps now in a17 getting around only 10fps or lower .. it starts to get playable only when I set it to 640res with lowest setting and only then I getting 40fps without lag&stutter (looks like very old ps2 game in those settings ..)
Bleeding buff also cuts fps in half .. srsly? from 40 to 20fps ... oh cmon, remove that blurry filter ''fps eater ..''
New looting system for me seems way too booring .. killing zeds only for xp aint not much fun ( and hoping for 1 loot bag from ~50 zeds .. )
New weapon/tool tier system also feels kind of booring, one u get something u yust keep repairing it without woory of quality loss or broking apart .. no more feeling rewarded when u manage to find few points higher quality stuff that gives some minor stat improvments ..
A17 still feels nice & devs have put a wonderfull job in it
for now ima sticking with a16 and WotW mod if A16 would have improved zed pathing system like a17, all these new vehicles & mods it would be perfect
And all those who said a16 has too mutch item clutter and too much managing .. well that was & is fun part of the game, you feel rewardes when u loot, u need to craft storages to store ur stuff and so on ( theres a reason to build, think manage .. )
Nice to see that fps now stays stable when entering buildings
But fps still is way lower then in a16 (because of all new textures?) .. in a16 playing in 1600res got around 40fps now in a17 getting around only 10fps or lower .. it starts to get playable only when I set it to 640res with lowest setting and only then I getting 40fps without lag&stutter (looks like very old ps2 game in those settings ..)
Bleeding buff also cuts fps in half .. srsly? from 40 to 20fps ... oh cmon, remove that blurry filter ''fps eater ..''
New looting system for me seems way too booring .. killing zeds only for xp aint not much fun ( and hoping for 1 loot bag from ~50 zeds .. )
New weapon/tool tier system also feels kind of booring, one u get something u yust keep repairing it without woory of quality loss or broking apart .. no more feeling rewarded when u manage to find few points higher quality stuff that gives some minor stat improvments ..
A17 still feels nice & devs have put a wonderfull job in it
for now ima sticking with a16 and WotW mod
if A16 would have improved zed pathing system like a17, all these new vehicles & mods it would be perfect And all those who said a16 has too mutch item clutter and too much managing .. well that was & is fun part of the game, you feel rewardes when u loot, u need to craft storages to store ur stuff and so on ( theres a reason to build, think manage .. )
Jay_ombie
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Textures technically shouldn't cause fps loss. They go into vram and don't really stress out the core speed at all. It's usually geometry/mesh or background calculations with regards graphic fx and such.
Not sure what comes into play more so with block physics possibly CPU maybe as when I am close to collapsing structures the fps tank hard !
I think the GPU is being better utilised now in this build as I see maximum core usage usually everywhere I turn.
But even with a i7 4.50mhz and a 1080ti breaching over 2025mhz the game options have to be brought down hobbling graphically what otherwise is a beautiful looking game but one I can't have maxed out as it goes into the obscene 20fps region !!!! at certain points even now.
Not sure what comes into play more so with block physics possibly CPU maybe as when I am close to collapsing structures the fps tank hard !
I think the GPU is being better utilised now in this build as I see maximum core usage usually everywhere I turn.
But even with a i7 4.50mhz and a 1080ti breaching over 2025mhz the game options have to be brought down hobbling graphically what otherwise is a beautiful looking game but one I can't have maxed out as it goes into the obscene 20fps region !!!! at certain points even now.
trielkee
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It's sad to see the reduction of the death debuff. Can't you just make it 1 hour on default and reduce or remove it on lower difficulties?
Don't know how I feel about the 20% damage reduction on wood blocks as I have yet to test it on horde night but seems alot of things are being made easier for the folks that complain about difficulty. Mining speed seems also fairly fast, much too fast for a starting character.
Regarding perks, I too miss the old system (only a part of, not the whole mechanic) where you had to do certain stuff to get better at them. What if they used the old system of learning by doing to level up only the starting tree attributes like strength and perception and for the perks under those specific trees you need experience points to unlock. At this point it's an odd felling to invest 6 points into strength to unlock 2 levels of a perk underneath that attribute. So, for example, you chop up a few trees, kill some zombies and mine some ore and you unlock level 1 of the strength attribute etc., then you only need to buy the perks you want underneath that tree.
Don't know how I feel about the 20% damage reduction on wood blocks as I have yet to test it on horde night but seems alot of things are being made easier for the folks that complain about difficulty. Mining speed seems also fairly fast, much too fast for a starting character.
Regarding perks, I too miss the old system (only a part of, not the whole mechanic) where you had to do certain stuff to get better at them. What if they used the old system of learning by doing to level up only the starting tree attributes like strength and perception and for the perks under those specific trees you need experience points to unlock. At this point it's an odd felling to invest 6 points into strength to unlock 2 levels of a perk underneath that attribute. So, for example, you chop up a few trees, kill some zombies and mine some ore and you unlock level 1 of the strength attribute etc., then you only need to buy the perks you want underneath that tree.
Kage848
Stream Team
I am. I was doing this small house. Had to drop through the floor to get to lower levels. Was attacked by 2 soilers, like 2 or 3 regular zombies and a cop. All in an enclosed basement. The area I dropped had stuff down to prevent need polling. I pulled out my shotty and went to work. It's the most challenge I have ever faced in this game. Survived with 8 hps. The loot was spectacular.
The loot in the easier buildings has not even come close to the loot I got here.
toores
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Gazz, meat harvesting is still out of balance.
I made a max level character with all perks and did some meat harvesting tests on a doe. It turns out bone shiv is supperior to hunting knife.
Bone shiv regular and power attack yielded 38-39 meat
Hunting knife yielded (if i remember correctly) 36 with regular and only 30 with power attack.
I made a max level character with all perks and did some meat harvesting tests on a doe. It turns out bone shiv is supperior to hunting knife.
Bone shiv regular and power attack yielded 38-39 meat
Hunting knife yielded (if i remember correctly) 36 with regular and only 30 with power attack.
You must be lucky, Kage, when I fall to enclosing area I found a couple of Shamway boxes there, and I didn't survive it...
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Those Boss boar give 50 meat when power attack, and 99 if normal attack, not sure if it is intended or I was just unlucky, but I try it couple of time. So power attack yield less for sure.
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