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I had a quest to clear an area in a small poi, but before I started the quest I went to kill all the zombies and loot everything. When I started the quest it reset all the zombies and loot containers. Seems like a bug?

 
Man... there is less crying in a daycare.

Alpha 16 was way too easy. This is a challenge and fun. You must learn how to play all over again.

Remember settings can be changed for those that find it too hard, such as always walking, lowering the overall toughness from default, longer days, smaller hordes, and I think there is an option for no zombies for those who just want to build monstrosities within the first couple weeks.

 
It's always going to be locked. :( Madmole: "We disabled it (at least I think we did) because generation of a 16k map was either stalling out or maybe takes longer than we were willing to wait to see (+1 hour) "
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Ok, so alphado did a test and made a 16x world... Go to the advance screen and you can set the preview number higher, which apparently does generate a world.

...he did a 32x and said it took hours, fyi.

 
You can change the length of day and night before you start a game:

Just set day length to 18 or 20 hours and you have nearly the whole day.

Don't know if there is a restriction to the number but you can alos change the xml file

<property name="DayLightLength" value="18" />

The night always starts at 10 pm, so if you do this value to 20, the night will last from 10 pm to 2 am. Not sure if the daylight depends on this value or if this just set if the Zs are running or not....You have to try

 
Ok, so alphado did a test and made a 16x world... Go to the advance screen and you can set the preview number higher, which apparently does generate a world.
...he did a 32x and said it took hours, fyi.
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Sure it works. Just click the button. But too much hassle with players expecting that to be instant...

 
.... I'm level 300, with a level 6 Pickaxe loaded with Mods.. it takes me 10 swings to break one rock.. ;f
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It unfortunately may get a even weaker unless they get more compatible mods added or balance tools a bit better. Joel said earlier that dye isn't actually supposed to add damage so we'll go from 2 max mods to 1 for pickaxes once that's fixed.

Once we actually have enough mods to fully deck out tools and they get Flurry of Blows working hopefully things might feel a bit better and closer to what we're used to. At least I hope so, I like working my way up to being a mining/wood cutting beast. :smile-new:

 
Has anyone from TFP said anything about why they changed the Y offset of crouch? XML's still say 0.65 but in game its only about 0.25 now, and that is reducing the vertical melee range by about 0.3m.

 
You can change the length of day and night before you start a game:Just set day length to 18 or 20 hours and you have nearly the whole day.

Don't know if there is a restriction to the number but you can alos change the xml file

<property name="DayLightLength" value="18" />

The night always starts at 10 pm, so if you do this value to 20, the night will last from 10 pm to 2 am. Not sure if the daylight depends on this value or if this just set if the Zs are running or not....You have to try
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I know these settings. We have set it already to 120 min and 18 hours. But would like to be able to make the daytime longer........

 
Has anyone from TFP said anything about why they changed the Y offset of crouch? XML's still say 0.65 but in game its only about 0.25 now, and that is reducing the vertical melee range by about 0.3m.
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Osteoporosis.

 
I find it an overlook that the "satiation" value is not displayed anymore on eatable stuff but it seem to give the same "food value" as max stamina for most foods. Might be related to the satiation value being variable with perks as Slow Metabolism but it would be nice to be visible.

 
How to reduce the heat

Have both skillpoints i can set

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Ok, so alphado did a test and made a 16x world... Go to the advance screen and you can set the preview number higher, which apparently does generate a world.
...he did a 32x and said it took hours, fyi.
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Yeah, I figured out how to do it last night. It's ridiculous. lol I now know why they did it. But, at the same time, with some optimization, they could have left it the old way and had it work just fine. Or, maybe give us the option on whether we want it to generate like Nav, or like A16 did it. That way, those of us would want large maps for our 50 player servers can still do so.

 
Yeah, I figured out how to do it last night. It's ridiculous. lol I now know why they did it. But, at the same time, with some optimization, they could have left it the old way and had it work just fine. Or, maybe give us the option on whether we want it to generate like Nav, or like A16 did it. That way, those of us would want large maps for our 50 player servers can still do so.
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Having 2 completely separate branches of code to do the exact same thing is the absolute worst thing you can do.

Don't you realise that it is faster to pre-generate the map?

 
Yeah, I figured out how to do it last night. It's ridiculous. lol I now know why they did it. But, at the same time, with some optimization, they could have left it the old way and had it work just fine. Or, maybe give us the option on whether we want it to generate like Nav, or like A16 did it. That way, those of us would want large maps for our 50 player servers can still do so.
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Oh come on.

You had a gripe, were told why, were given a solution and are still griping. About a non existent issue.

...you HAVE to see what that's doing for you...

 
Sure it works. Just click the button. But too much hassle with players expecting that to be instant...
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Yeah, and the file size for the map files. OUCH. lol My only problem is to have it playable with the new generation system, you are forced to have a smaller map than A16. MUCH smaller. This doesn't work for the dozens of servers that have 50 or more players on at once. A 64 sq. KM map i just not big enough. It would be nice to have an option to use Nav type generation or A16 type generation. Depending on what the server is going to be set up for. Smaller maps (201 sq. km smaller than A16 default) is going to kill a lot of servers. And these people have put years and countless hours of their time (for free) into building up their player base and giving everyone a great experience. The new map gen system is going to just take that all away from them. It's a shame really. Would it really be that hard to give us a choice?

 
Having 2 completely separate branches of code to do the exact same thing is the absolute worst thing you can do.
Don't you realise that it is faster to pre-generate the map?
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Of course I do. But like I said in another response, it also will kill any server that has more than a 25 person limit to have such tiny maps. Some of these people have spent thousands of dollars to purchase a computer just so other people can play for free on it. Now, it's just going to be a paper weight for them...

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Oh come on.
You had a gripe, were told why, were given a solution and are still griping. About a non existent issue.

...you HAVE to see what that's doing for you...
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It's a non existent issue that quite a lot of servers are going to shut down and people will stop playing because the max server count will be 20 or something with such a tiny map? Then again, what do TFP care, right? They already got the money from these people.

 
CAN'T EVEN PLAY NOW! FPS is at 6-8 WTH fun pimps! FIX the optimization of this game please!!!!!! And why does it take hours to bust a rock now! I am going back to A16 its way better than this crap! At least I can play the game, I shouldn't have to by a new computer everytime you do an update to a game that I was able to play but now can't because you did not optimize the world so it don't eat up all the frames. Too may issues with the update, I have seen so many say they can't even play now, because their computer won't support it anymore, Mad Mole what are the Fun Pimps going to do about this? We want to be able to play like we could in A16. Don't get me wrong I love the concept but this game needs to be optimized so we can play also like before!

 
Having 2 completely separate branches of code to do the exact same thing is the absolute worst thing you can do.
Don't you realise that it is faster to pre-generate the map?
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I agree about the separate branches of code but currently it's impossible, as far as I know, to generate a map the size of the old RWG using the new RWG. In that case the old RWG will generate a playable map of sufficient size faster since the new RWG completely lacks the capability.

Is there a way through xml or whatever to generate new maps the same size as the old RWG?

 
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