I am more intersted in how much storage space it'll have, as thats what I care about most with the vechicles. The bike doesn't seem to have any storage at all, so i'd toss that second I got something that did. Then again, if vechicles have like mod slots like most things in a17 you can probally find or buy a mod to put in for inv space.
I could see that, but then I could also see that a larger vehicle with more noise would be bad. Especially now that there's a stealth/sound meter in the update. So a silent bike with minimal storage could get you around easier than the jeep or minibike that makes a hell of a lot of sound and could potentially wake up 3 houses (the one you stop and plus each side) of all the zombies and they start coming for you. With how much changes is going into A17, that could and probably will cost you your life. Different vehicles for different situations.
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They'd definitely be under the roads, and no part of the 'PoI' would leave the surface coverage of the road above.. the pipes jutting out of the walls are simply aesthetic and lead nowhere.
That's the thing, with the new sleeper volumes, the stealth/sound system, and other things, I'm not sure. I would hope so for the fact that a loud machine coming up to a house should set something off. Maybe not 3, but I know that I can hear my neighbors 2 doors down at times when they come home because of their vehicle. I understand, zombies, but even a shortened distance would be say the 1 door down. So I'd think it'd mainly do with how loud they make a vehicle and when do sleeper volumes spawn. If it spawns some distance out, then the sound could affect them, but if the sleepers spawn more like once you get to the doorstep, then it wouldn't matter I suppose. Would be a bit sad, lol. Be nice if it did affect them, next thing you know, zombies are busting to get out from multiple houses. There are times I've currently woke up sleeper volumes in a house next to me just by walking through a room. So maybe they spawn enough out for a loud vehicle to wake them. That's something faatal would know since he does the sleeper volumes. Maybe Roland would know, too.
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I think new way of doing that was it remembered current alive, so if you left and came back, it would just rearranged what was once still alive, so it wouldn't include the placeholders. I'm not sure if there're placeholders any more, but more of a randomized amount alive. Once it reaches 0, it starts some timer, once it ends, it randomizes the current alive again, repeat. I could be wrong, wish I could find his post on it to refresh myself. That is how I at least remember it..... though so much info has been flying around on here and work that I could be mixing some info, lol. Hopefully faatal sees this and clears it up. I could see so many timers causing resource issues at some point, lol, so maybe that's not what is going on.
Prefab link- I believe they are in one of the combo packs
Faatal said that several volumes in the same POI do not overlap with each other. Besides that, if a single volume spans several places and it indeed happens that you first go in and find one zombie in another room, and there's another one you don't see, and then go out and back in and find both in the same room, well, while it might seem like a respawn, it isn't. You just have to kill them. Where's the issue? At most some people might complain that they are respawning because they don't know the details of the mechanic.
The issue? That even with this new system sleepers could potentially be respawning/'relocated' in the same location as where you've previously killed them. Which is awefully similar to the sleeper issue in A16.
I think the main question is coming about based on if the "blank placeholders" could become an actual zombie sleeper, so it never was there in the first place. So there's 1 left, leave, now there's 2 because a placeholder became a zombie instead of just keeping it the 1 from before. What you stated is completely true, if we knew 100% that placeholders weren't becoming zombies.
Agreed
Didn't faatal also confirm that no new ones were added? The way I understand it, if a volume has 2 zombies in it and you only explore part of the volume and see 1 zombie, you could see the two of them when you come back because they changed to two positions in, say, the same room, but it'll never spawn new zombies.
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I thought the problem in A16 was that the unless you killed all the sleepers, it would keep resetting the sleeper spawn count.
I believe you, Drithyl, are correct with it being that way, but for A17. For A16.4, I think Aurelius is correct with how the volumes work.
