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Developer Discussions: Alpha 17

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That's great to hear!
Might one be so bold as to inquire as to whether this included multiseat jeeps (or is "good enough" bar set at that not working and not included yet), and the gyrocopter?

A video of those things working would be awesome. Unless the "good enough" bit excludes both those parts on purpose.

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You should show Faatal how to get a television to work in a vanilla 7DTD game.

 
Wow. That. Was... GREAT!!

The last handful of pages was so full of angst, struggle, pathos and ire that TFP could use it as a blueprint for Faction conflicts!

-How would you get two (relatively good) factions into conflict with each other? Quests galore in resolving (or inciting) conflicts.

-Two traders and their security teams are at the point of violence because of something trivial. Again quests for resolving or inciting the conflict.

Well done everyone. I'm sure that took a lot of effort!

 
Wow. That. Was... GREAT!!
The last handful of pages was so full of angst, struggle, pathos and ire that TFP could use it as a blueprint for Faction conflicts!

-How would you get two (relatively good) factions into conflict with each other? Quests galore in resolving (or inciting) conflicts.

-Two traders and their security teams are at the point of violence because of something trivial. Again quests for resolving or inciting the conflict.

Well done everyone. I'm sure that took a lot of effort!
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I can't stop laughing. Thanks, Al!

 
Pretty much everything I mentioned before that is being worked on by programmers and designers like AI, pathfinding, vehicles, buffs, items, quests, RWG, sounds, UI are not using new engine features. They are still being worked on.
What counts as a status update? Does this count as a status update?
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This is my biggest frustration. People ignoring the fact that you guys on the Pimps staff consistently throw out information here in the forums. Sure, it may not be world-altering info, and it's definitely not a speculation on a release date (can you IMAGINE?), but it's still proof-positive of the work being done.

While I'd love more frequent screenshots, a video (sorry, MM...it's just true), and maybe a list of the items that still need to be addressed before a17e can go live...it's not as though you guys in development have been silent. It's just that you're not giving the people who want to whinge EXACTLY the info they want WHEN precisely they want it.

And that, in all honesty, is just irritating. Ignoring the Pimps actual efforts to show us some of what they're working on and what's delayed the release all because you're wanting more/different information is both disrespectful and downright infantile.

I'll say it again @fataal, @Roland, @madmole, and all the others: thank you for what you do.

 
I have a humble request @Roland/forum staff:
PLEASE make the next dev diary an actual dev diary thread – you know, a place where the devs post about progress like fataal does and keep all the (more or less) senseless arguments somewhere separate. Maybe even lock it completely and keep the "discussions" in other threads.

I know there's the first 2 posts summarizing all new info, but it would be nice to be able to see the progress updates in visual, chronological order. Have (more) devs post directly, crosspost all the Twitter and YT posts, throw in a few screenies every now and then - AND THAT'S ALL WE NEED in one place and easily accessible.

Then those of us who'd like to just see what's new and coming with THE GAME and not with the "community" don't have to skim through dozens of pages of "Dis early access, deal with it"-"But muh expectations"-"De definitions say dis"-"Dey need to commoonicate better"-circlejerk. Less talk, more show.

As a somewhat long time reader of this forum, I'm friggin tired of it.
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I requested this change months ago. Roland said they had tried to limit it, but ended up letting it go because people were having so much “fun”...

TL;DR Good luck with that

 
I'd suggest to create a "Developer Diary: Alpha 18" (just for staff members) and "Developer Diary: Alpha 18 - Discussion" (for all)

 
I requested this change months ago. Roland said they had tried to limit it, but ended up letting it go because people were having so much “fun”...
TL;DR Good luck with that
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You did and so have others and now this one was the final straw. My guilty feelings over having been so emojitiously naughty pushed me over the edge into giving those who want more professionalism what they want. :)

I think what I have planned will work well. There will be a one week lag between what gets moved to the developer's diary from here. That way discussions can continue and I will scoop up developer posts and move them over. I think giving it a week's time for anyone to ask questions and get them answered and interact with one of the devs who is on should be enough time.

 
We can try it again. It wasn't super popular the first time we got strict. But I'm willing to give it a go.
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please do.

nuke (lol) the trolls. they are so obvious it isnt funny.

actually it is, because people get triggered and spout off and all we hear is blah blah blah

maybe set a list of off topic subjects

like

early access for and against

personal game play styles

streamers being given a MASSIVE 3, yes 3 (shocking!) day head start on the more 'deserving' users

gramer and engrish interpretations

hey, cover yourself and conduct a poll of what kind of diatribe we don't want to see.

i catch up in the morning on the forum between when the original alarm goes off and when the second one does (snooze is a godsend) but man, my bladder cant take much more of this. i only need to read the first 5 words to see where a post is going but it takes soooooo long to find anything worth reading

 
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