PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17
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wolffblood
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It's sad to see how little people understand of the framework that goes into the game for it to be as modifiable as it is. Without that framework (or even the current framework), modders wouldn't be able to do half the stuff they do without actually digging deep and having to change (and first understand) core code. Shoot, with how A17 sounds to be, I could see someone modding in a zipline for Roland 
You paid for a licence to install and run a piece of software. You also were told this software is in development and to do so was under advisment that it may or may not work as intended due to the fact it is in development. No where, and I mean no where at all, does i say you are also entitled to insider company information. They have rights to privacy, just as you do. Would you like it if you made and sold something and everyone who bought it could come knocking on your door and asking anything they want? Have some common sense.
Yes. If they wanted they could stop development. Did you read the early access terms? You can go to the steam page and read now if you want. There are games that get abandoned (not saying this will happen to 7DTD) in early access all the time. Just look up Reign of Kings. Nobody owes you anything. You bought the game in early access. That's the risk you take.
Learn what? I would rather people that post this kind of thing would learn something about coding before they post. NOT ALL THINGS CAN BE BROKEN DOWN INTO SMALLER PARTS. What part did you want them only do half of? Half of a new physics system for vehicles? Half of the code moved to the new Unity? Stop telling professional developers how to do their jobs. They made a game all of us like enough to come on their forums so they obviously have done something right. Maybe let them do it their way? You know since that has gotten us a game we really love.
Thunderbrand
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Upgrading from Unity 5.6 to 2018 and HDRP is not a trivial matter. Refactoring entire systems in an established product is not a trivial matter. Upgrading your UVs and atlases to take advantage of higher resolution textures is not a trivial matter.
Regarding the modders you mentioned, comparing people who edit XML files to people who are building the core gameplay mechanics is like comparing people who write their grocery list into a text editor to the people who built the actual text editor.
Is my question offensive? - No, but the request demonstrates a level of ignorance about how companies operate as well as the complexities of software development.
Or so difficult to answer? - Not difficult, but it would take time away from making further progress on the game.
What is so difficult about counting personnel on heads? - Again, not difficult, but they have no obligation to provide you such information.
List their capabilities, experience, etc. - Capabilities: Making games. Experience: 7D2D or other titles. Done.
I paid for the dev... (LOL I can't even complete writing the rest of that) - Just no. TFP likely bootstrapped themselves by starting this as a side project until the Kickstarter completed and let them do it full time and hire a team. Even though you bought the game, your one purchase amounts to ~%0.00001 of the total sales, and the rest of us want TFP to keep working on their game, not wasting time divulging confidential personnel information to internet randos. However, none of that matters, because TFP isn't a democracy and they will move forward as they feel is appropriate. Buying a copy of a game or backing a Kickstarter project does not entitle you to a seat on the board.
I want to see A17 done as much as anyone.
Stop trying to sidetrack them with superfluous nonsense and let them get ♥♥♥♥ done.
Regarding the modders you mentioned, comparing people who edit XML files to people who are building the core gameplay mechanics is like comparing people who write their grocery list into a text editor to the people who built the actual text editor.
Is my question offensive? - No, but the request demonstrates a level of ignorance about how companies operate as well as the complexities of software development.
Or so difficult to answer? - Not difficult, but it would take time away from making further progress on the game.
What is so difficult about counting personnel on heads? - Again, not difficult, but they have no obligation to provide you such information.
List their capabilities, experience, etc. - Capabilities: Making games. Experience: 7D2D or other titles. Done.
I paid for the dev... (LOL I can't even complete writing the rest of that) - Just no. TFP likely bootstrapped themselves by starting this as a side project until the Kickstarter completed and let them do it full time and hire a team. Even though you bought the game, your one purchase amounts to ~%0.00001 of the total sales, and the rest of us want TFP to keep working on their game, not wasting time divulging confidential personnel information to internet randos. However, none of that matters, because TFP isn't a democracy and they will move forward as they feel is appropriate. Buying a copy of a game or backing a Kickstarter project does not entitle you to a seat on the board.
I want to see A17 done as much as anyone.
Stop trying to sidetrack them with superfluous nonsense and let them get ♥♥♥♥ done.
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Kalex
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1) You are acting self-entitled.
2) Not difficult to answer, but still none of your business.
3) Still none of your business
4) That would be a violation of privacy laws and it is still none of your business.
5) No, go re-read the EULA. You paid for a use license not for ownership. You HAVE use of the game already. You have no more legal entitlement than that.
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Chronic Cougher
Squirrels confirmed for A17.
Coughs * RELEASE the KRAKEN * Coughs
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