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OK finally real news, A 18 & not BETA so reports on Steam by Mod's on BETA being next are false, thought so.
Keep up the Debugging, waiting patiently as always...
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Sounds like you are trying to win an argument/ bet against the moderator team...

Madmole said that the game would probably go Beta after A17.

Internally they talk about changes they will make in the next update to the game which they label A18.

So here is what could happen next:

1) After A17 is stable possibly by A17.2 they COULD do a few large updates of new content and features and call those 17.3 and 17.4 and 17.5 and then go to Beta and never have an A18. And so internally when the developers talk to each other now and say A18 they'll do this or that it would actually be in A17.3 or A17.4

Then Madmole and the moderators would be correct and not false.

2) After A17 is stable they could go into beta and the changes that they are talking about being for A18 would actually be for post release and then there would be no A18 and the game would go Beta after A17 and Madmole and the developers would be correct and not false.

3) After A17 is stable the developers decide to go ahead and work on A18 and call it A18. In that case Beta would NOT be right after A17 but since Madmole always said "probably" it isn't strictly false and since the moderators were just repeating what they heard from Madmole they might turn out to be wrong but they aren't being false about it.

What it comes down to is that the developers don't really care what they call it. Only people who want to scrutinize and put significant meaning into every phrase uttered so as to win arguments on the internet or to be able to come back later with an imagined "ah ha! Gotcha!" post are spending any amount of time worrying about it.

Next is just the next step whatever it looks like and whatever it ends up being labeled.

 
are bedrolls supposed to block bloodmoon spawns?

had the dead zone set to 100

day 21 horde would not spawn

picked up bed and they started to spawn

put it down and they would stop

I thought they only stoped regular spawns and sleepers

bug?

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also if a dead zone of 100 blocks the horde that doesnt seem very far

any chance a17 can push that distance back a bit?

 
I am not starting an Argument all. I am just stating what I have seen. I would hope this would be a conversation between Adults and dispute the false statements. But really focus on the Facts.
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Mr. they have to post them to the investors, not the players. All companies have to post a "Profit and Loss" Statement. Review the laws for private businesses.
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I'm a little late to the party but what will he think when someone tells him he really doesn't own a copy of 7 Days, but only owns the right to access the game from Steam's library?

 
That is hilarious! LOL
You said you know they do not give ETAs and then you ask for one! #Priceless
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A night with Alexandra Daddario is priceless.
#priorities =)
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For everything else #Mastercard

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I'm a little late to the party but what will he think when someone tells him he really doesn't own a copy of 7 Days, but only owns the right to access the game from Steam's library?
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I'm not sure, I'll check tomorrow. I think you can copy the game folder to a computer without steam and still run it. If that's the case he does actually own it because I don't think TFP are going to care if he burns the contents of the folder to a disk and sits his teacakes on it if he legally bought it.

Honestly? I don't think TFP could be that much of an arsehole, they're good people.

 
I'm not sure, I'll check tomorrow. I think you can copy the game folder to a computer without steam and still run it. If that's the case he does actually own it because I don't think TFP are going to care if he burns the contents of the folder to a disk and sits his teacakes on it if he legally bought it.
Honestly? I don't think TFP could be that much of an arsehole, they're good people.
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You can not run 7 Days to Die unless you are logged in to steam. Trust me I know i've accidentally done it several times so yes, if they wanted they could pull access to the game if they wanted to, but i do NOT know if Steam would have to block it from starting up. As of now you can not play SP unless you are logged into the steam client.

I have more than a few games that disappeared from my list when their EA failed. Dead Linger most notable for me.

 
are bedrolls supposed to block bloodmoon spawns?had the dead zone set to 100

day 21 horde would not spawn

picked up bed and they started to spawn

put it down and they would stop

I thought they only stoped regular spawns and sleepers

bug?

- - - Updated - - -

also if a dead zone of 100 blocks the horde that doesnt seem very far

any chance a17 can push that distance back a bit?
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I know water stops a bloodmoon spawn in a16, have tested this accross many servers, but that's been reported and reproduced. We have our players build 200 blocks from any water, but this is an interesting thing we haven't tried, The bedroll having an impact.

Mite have to do some testing with that one. We always assumed it was players having their base to close to the water, as in the spawn points being around 80 or so blocks away from a player on bloodmoon, if that happened to land in water, no zombies would spawn for horde night. Much testing on our server for that issue, but the idea of a bedroll also stopping bloodmoon spawn is something Ill be testing for sure.

 
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I was joking. That was a reference to wiggleslap's line of thinking.
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Testament to my bad memory. Now I got the reference.

I’m a bit confused. Do you think TFP are adding all those systems to give all the credit to modders? For example, don’t you think they have planned some great content for the buff system they built themselves? Or is it just that you want to get it all finished by A17?
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tldr; What guppycur said :rapture:

Yes, great content will follow. I just assume the time was too short to redo/enhance the buff system AND add a lot features using the new buffs.

This is what happened to quests and mods. Roland already told us that at the moment the quests and mods that are implemented are just a few basic ones. Because they first had to implement the low level stuff not a lot of time was left for creating the quests and mods themselves.

 
Yes. This will be the greatest update for 7 days to die ever.

...for about 20 of us.

The remaining folks will see new awesome mod content, not possible without the aforementioned update. =)

(but, calling it a Modder's Paradise Update isn't as sexy as calling it A17 I guess)

 
I know water stops a bloodmoon spawn in a16, have tested this accross many servers, but that's been reported and reproduced. We have our players build 200 blocks from any water, but this is an interesting thing we haven't tried, The bedroll having an impact.
Mite have to do some testing with that one. We always assumed it was players having their base to close to the water, as in the spawn points being around 80 or so blocks away from a player on bloodmoon, if that happened to land in water, no zombies would spawn for horde night. Much testing on our server for that issue, but the idea of a bedroll also stopping bloodmoon spawn is something Ill be testing for sure.
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Well for the record. I was nowhere near water

 
I'm not sure, I'll check tomorrow. I think you can copy the game folder to a computer without steam and still run it. If that's the case he does actually own it because I don't think TFP are going to care if he burns the contents of the folder to a disk and sits his teacakes on it if he legally bought it.
Honestly? I don't think TFP could be that much of an arsehole, they're good people.
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Yeah, pretty sure it's in Steams TOS that you are buying access to their game library. If you can't remember your Steam password, you cannot play any of the games regardless where you put the files, unless you log into Steam. In order to actually own a copy of any game, you must buy the hard copy.

 
I just finished a two day major overhaul of sleeper volume code. All bugs I could find (despawn, reset, exploding cops) were fixed and a console command was added to dump sleeper volume info.
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(Sorry for delay. Multi-convention...)

If you PM me your address, I will drive down from MI and give you a hug. Heck I'll even buy you a lunch.

 
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