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ronald can we expect a video today or anything really ? this silence is killing us it s been 2 weeks since madmole video
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It will most likely be another two weeks before we get a video so you might as well relax. :)

I like to joke about it and chant Video but I know it's not coming any time soon.

 
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I think A18 you will start seeing some crazy stuff as we start expanding on the capabilities of the updated systems. More design and less tech.
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Can’t wait!!

The updated systems seem to have huge potential!

 
@Guppycur,any chance you'll get deployed to the Carolinas for Florence?
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Pretty much 99% right now; I'm wrapping things up here and plan to be there probably Monday, assuming they still have roads. =)

Hopefully I get to work out of Charleston. Big fan of one of the restaurants there.

 
I think A18 you will start seeing some crazy stuff as we start expanding on the capabilities of the updated systems. More design and less tech.
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Such as Bandits? Fishing? Fishing WITH Bandit!? cats and dogs living together? TFP getting sued and forced to release videos!? ;)

Will we ever see things like burning zombie setting wood blocks on fire? that might be interesting...

 
I'll have to side with the flashy underwear model on this. AI will make a difference but will be seen mostly as a bug fix for the running in circles bug. Only the zombies hitting support structures might be regarded as a new feature on its own.
The buff system is deep under the hood and I suspect that on the surface only the old buffs were converted to the new system and a few features already listed on page 1 use the new buffs, but without most players noticing the difference.

What will be noticed is the jeep, the arrows, the weapon mods and maybe the still unknown secret feature.

The secret feature has been in the game for a long time, but the chem trails made us forget.


There is also a command in the chem trails to "send 30 bucks to TFP". But someone in Area 51 made a spelling mistake and all the testers got the command "send 30 bugs to TFP". Hence the delay.
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I’m a bit confused. Do you think TFP are adding all those systems to give all the credit to modders? For example, don’t you think they have planned some great content for the buff system they built themselves? Or is it just that you want to get it all finished by A17?

 
There are crowdfunding models where you really can invest in a game (Fig for example), but backers on kickstarter are NOT investors. They are only making a combined donation and purchase.
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Meganoth seriously thank you for the correction. Personally I have

been researching funding for my own micronized power supply. I

pondered the thought of whether to continue independently or apply

with Kickstarter.

The statement regarding backers as being investors was my independant

thought, because, of the kickstarter model. In legal terms, which i'm

re-investigating now, they are backers, or pledgers. In layman terms, I

actually thought they were investors because they submitted, specific

quantities of money, for an expected specific yield.

Though not from financial reciprocity, they pledged and sent money,

with a direct expectation of receiving different levels of (perks).

A t-shirt, charater addition to the game,honorable mentions,

plane tickets and invites. The financial remuneration was sought by

The brothers and eventually their team. Much of this seems to be

reworded contractual agreements akin to IPO/stock offers.

Everyone else that has purchased the game from Steam, or other electronic

distribution media, would be concidered consumers. The argument presented

interested me, because of my own external life goals. It also has an applied

statement that, I am an investor, in Toyota-Nissan-Microsoft etc. because

I bought their product, they are continuations of said products, each has had

recalls because of bugs and each receives yearly upgrades.

The statement, also made me think seriously, about the fact that, an individual

consumer, that pays as little as $1 for a product would therein and or thereafter

be granted the right, either real or imagined to my internal business process.

Once again thanks for the edification, Ill just build mine and sell the patent

to a corporation.

 
I’m a bit confused. Do you think TFP are adding all those systems to give all the credit to modders? For example, don’t you think they have planned some great content for the buff system they built themselves? Or is it just that you want to get it all finished by A17?
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I think he's agreeing with me that this iteration, a17, won't have a lot of new wow factors. A18 sounds like it will though. So right NOW, the buff system won't be fully taken advantage of, but hopefully they will soon.

 
I think A18 you will start seeing some crazy stuff as we start expanding on the capabilities of the updated systems. More design and less tech.
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OK finally real news, A 18 & not BETA so reports on Steam by Mod's on BETA being next are false, thought so.

Keep up the Debugging, waiting patiently as always...

 
I think he's agreeing with me that this iteration, a17, won't have a lot of new wow factors. A18 sounds like it will though. So right NOW, the buff system won't be fully taken advantage of, but hopefully they will soon.
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Ok, I see. I quess that depends what you consider a wow factor. All those systems are pretty awesome and though it is expected that we initially only get old buffs converted to new system, I won’t be discouraged to dream of all the possibilities TFP might (and the modders will :D ) implement al later development.

 
Ok, I see. I quess that depends what you consider a wow factor. All those systems are pretty awesome and though it is expected that we initially only get old buffs converted to new system, I won’t be discouraged to dream of all the possibilities TFP might (and the modders will :D ) implement al later development.
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Yeh the crux was that the majority of players, i.e. not us, wouldn't notice and would be upset.

 
I know you dont give ETA's anymore but can anyone at least say how close they at least feel they are to A17?
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That is hilarious! LOL

You said you know they do not give ETAs and then you ask for one! #Priceless

 
Such as Bandits? Fishing? Fishing WITH Bandit!? cats and dogs living together? TFP getting sued and forced to release videos!? ;)
Will we ever see things like burning zombie setting wood blocks on fire? that might be interesting...
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Bandits? lol

2017 - the only thing keeping bandits out right now are the janky animations.

2018 - All animation redone, bandits delayed.

 
I think A18 you will start seeing some crazy stuff as we start expanding on the capabilities of the updated systems. More design and less tech.
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This is the part most people don't understand about game dev. You have to get the tech working and working well before you can get really creative with the design around it. If you try it the other way you waste a lot of design time/resources on system that has fundamental flaws that need fixed.

 
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It's been a while since my last post - just spectating mostly. I've seen a lot of judgements passed and a lot of complaining along with some really good stuff.
I don't mind reading through the complaints - there are some good arguments presented. It is the arrogance and ignorance that I glance over and could care less about. Passing judgement on TFP is not going to make the release come quicker and neither is complaining about the length of the wait. Those are boring posts lacking content therefore a waste of space. Make my bathroom break reading great again people! Use your brains and not your bad attitude to discuss the game and the elusive A17! I need another corny joke from Roland asap! :)
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Okay, I'll bite, but last time I tried this I damn near got crucified for it. What the hell... this place loves drama :-)

What's the deal with vulkan integration and linux at this point?

I've messed around with vulkan on a couple of distros and with some different hardware, the results were... mixed. I seem to remember a dev saying that in game vulkan isn't used but we have a note on the front page saying we have vulkan menus.

What gives? Linux people are fine as long as they can learn to operate the menu blindly?

Let the drama commence!

 
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