PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17

[Gmad03]

I’ve already boarded and un boarded the hype train several times Mainly I want to see those weekly gains of seeing a17 come together. And improve. I think it would help the community calm down a bit to see weekly improvement videos. Hopefully Joel brushes up on his gaming a bit and thinks our a small plan for his video series.

 

[Xrt]

Underground base at bedrock level, will always be safe. eep:

I wouldn't say always I mean, who knows what the future might bring for 7D2D.

I have a feeling the devs don't like that people hide from the threats underground, and they're doing something about it. I can just imagine the thrill of thinking I'm safe dug down deep, only to hear them scream and punch their way into my underground base, talk about being cornered, hah.

Before I always used to avoid underground because I knew in a way it was cheating (and also boring for horde night) but now I am quite interested what designs to make underground to counter the zombies digging underground. I just hope they are powerful enough to dig. Because I had a base back in a15 on a high cliff and I remember them digging straight under the cliff because they couldn't get up the stiff cliff but it took them ages just to make a small cave there. I hope the digging speed is adjusted for zombies so that on horde night i don't have to wait 40 mins for them to reach my base digging slowly.

Same!

I never really understood digging down deep to avoid the zombies, where's the fun in that!? :laugh:

Agreed, they're supposed to be feral at night, I have no problem with them running like crazy with digging skills like a mad mole (no pun).

I'm super psyched about A17!!

 

[skippy0330]

Considering how many times we had to wipe our saves and start a new game, not so much.

I'd rather wipe and restart my save than not play it for 10 months because he games broken...

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will a a17 fix the large buildings so when you cut out the first floor it actually falls down and not float?

Once you have a super computer that is capable of computing a collapse that large i don't see why not!

 

[Prisma501]

Underground base at bedrock level, will always be safe. eep:

Even gps zeds have their limits . In a16 that's 100 blocks distance. They cant track further than that. So yeah i guess if that is still the same in a17 and you find a place where distance between ground level and bedrock is more than 100 blocks + base size (height), you ll be safe.

Cheers

 

[Drithyl]

As Gnomaana pointed out, and since I was one of the parties commenting on the issue: there was absolutely no "outrage" there. It was just curious people wondering how things would be handled, and discussing with the information that we were given :/

It hurts a bit to see such harsh, uncalled for reactions to the discussion, including from prominent people. A feature was mentioned, then it was commented and its potential problems were discussed politely and in a proper tone. Is that seriously a bad thing?

 

[Zadwanaa]

 

[Aldranon]

Maybe its wrong to enjoy watching all the drama, all the people I've "known" for years kinda freak out a little. But you are all my friends on some level and it just reminds me of...

The Bundys!

Yes! We sure got Al's... wait.

 

[Guppycur]

Hey everyone, just wanted to calm everyone down about this. The quests will not reset occupied POIs (bedroll-ed/land claimed/player inside). I'll try to post some more info when the last few details are finalized.

People are more worried about their secondary bases, or homes that have already been ransacked/destroyed/modified, and how utterly weird it'll be.

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And on the POI-reset feature:You are inventing the problems you complain about...

Don't make me return a SECOND pitchfork to the store!

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Single Player: Not an issuePVE Co-op: Why are you playing with this person?

PVP: New objective...kill the squatter. Still fun?

If I have say, my forge house and my forges have all of my materials, etc, but NOT my bedroll, then I can see being a teensy bit upset when some rando who doesn't know anything about me goes and resets the entire building.

I'm not saying it's a problem for me (I find the notion hysterical, and like Jax, see more opportunities for modding than I do problems for playing), but I can definitely see the peoples point of view on this one.

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I never take over a POI as a satellite base, personally.
I just carry wood and wood frames with me, slap down a quick 5x5 base which is enough for some chests and a campfire and use that if I -really- need to.

Otherwise, drop chests.

How close to the poi do you place this 5x5 or your drop chests? If they're too close, consider them potentially gone...

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Can I ask, how big is TFP dev team? This is not a comment about the development time, or anything like that, I am only wondering. I am a games tech student, and indie dev teams always interest me. Is it small, around 5 people or a bit larger with 20ish? I know when development of 7 days started it was a small team, wondering if theyve expanded, or stayed the same?

Load game, hit "Credits", profit in knowledge.

 

[katarynna]

On the issue of secondary bases for "heat" generators, to me that is as much cheesing the mechanics as underground/stilt bases. You are completely avoiding the screamer hordes at your main base instead of the 7 day hordes.

I *personally* hope that TFP do nothing to protect secondary bases since they have put in the effort to eliminate protected main bases. Your forges should be no more safe than the main bases of the tunnelers and stilters.

 

[The Gronk]

Where did he claim to have a solution to anything? He is pointing out what may(or may not) be flaws in a system described by said TFP devs that do have "all the information." That's the way these forums have worked since I joined. Sometime the possible flaw never existed sometimes is did.
It's, for sure, not very productive to claim he is saying things he didn't say.

To be fair, early in the conversation and before we were told about the bedroll/land-claim system I had already proposed two solutions and agreed with a third shortly after we were told.

Only reset POI's that hadn't been visited within a certain time-frame.

Only reset POI's with a limited number of altered blocks.

Limit the number of active land-claim blocks allowed per player.

I'm still not sure where people are getting the idea that I'm outraged, I've been known to cause outrage but I'm far too chilled to actually get outraged.

 

[4sheetzngeegles]

I have three questions. First; The requests that are being made are they more for having these features locked into vanilla, or more for having the ability and option to include exclude features?

Second question; Are modded servers considered less prominent than vanilla servers?

If so then the Mods created by the forum users, are used more by which group?

 

[4sheetzngeegles]

Thought of another question, Im old thought come slow to me. What exactly makes a playthrough be considered Hard core, Is it volume of entities, Speed of days, low yield loot? I'm trying to see if there is some other parameters i can change to experience that also when i play.

 

[The Gronk]

Thought of another question, Im old thought come slow to me. What exactly makes a playthrough be considered Hard core, Is it volume of entities, Speed of days, low yield loot? I'm trying to see if there is some other parameters i can change to experience that also when i play.

Playing with your monitor turned off

 

[4sheetzngeegles]

As neo said to the architect you still have't answered my question. I was asking seriously. because i edit my gameplay a lot to remove weaknesses.

 

[meganoth]

As Gnomaana pointed out, and since I was one of the parties commenting on the issue: there was absolutely no "outrage" there. It was just curious people wondering how things would be handled, and discussing with the information that we were given :/
It hurts a bit to see such harsh, uncalled for reactions to the discussion, including from prominent people. A feature was mentioned, then it was commented and its potential problems were discussed politely and in a proper tone. Is that seriously a bad thing?

Maybe some poeple deemed the available information just too scarce to draw any conclusions or really give sensible suggestions. Especially so shortly after lootgate where that led to hundreds of silly posts of "where are my bones?".

I assume The Gronk tried to coerce more information out of TFP, a noble cause, but with the nerves of other readers as unintended casualties. :wink:

 

[The Gronk]

Maybe some poeple deemed the available information just too scarce to draw any conclusions or really give sensible suggestions. Especially so shortly after lootgate where that led to hundreds of silly posts of "where are my bones?".
I assume The Gronk tried to coerce more information out of TFP, a noble cause, but with the nerves of other readers as fatalities. :wink:

I was just trying to avoid obvious flaws and exploits that would require a rewrite of the code and cause further delays to future releases while minimizing the amount of butthurt posts by people affected by such things.

Not much really.

 

[wwiiogre]

Are we there yet?

Is it finally the weekend for streams?

Are we there yet?



Chris

 

[Guest]

Are we there yet?
Is it finally the weekend for streams?

Are we there yet?



Chris

Try about this time next month

 

[Prisma501]

I was just trying to avoid obvious flaws and exploits that would require a rewrite of the code and cause further delays to future releases while minimizing the amount of butthurt posts by people affected by such things.
Not much really.

Thing is...calling them obvious exploits and flaws and implying that the pimps don't think bout that sort of stuff can rub some hairs here and there i guess. The suggestions were valid imo. For me the only annoyance was that you kept asking for alternate solutions even after multiple pimps staff had nuanced it and said there would be more info when all the details are finalized. ;D

Cheers

 

[The Gronk]

Thing is...calling them obvious exploits and flaws and implying that the pimps don't think bout that sort of stuff can rub some hairs here and there i guess. The suggestions were valid imo. For me the only annoyance was that you kept asking for alternate solutions even after multiple pimps staff had nuanced it and said there would be more info when all the details are finalized. ;D
Cheers

I've been known to strap on the rose-tinted glasses when coding, I always try to thank anybody who points out a flaw in my reasoning. It's easy to take criticism badly but the mark of a mature person to be able to admit that you're not perfect.

Unfortunately with modern business culture being what it is nobody likes to be seen as weak, and failure is often seen as weakness instead of the learning experience it should be.