Darkening Demise
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With everything else improving the character models really stand out as awful plastic toony looking models without the Borderlands outline. Hope they get updated in the future with NPCs being added.
PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17
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danielspoa
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the weapons look amazing! I noticed the light orange tone to the quest counter (0/20), as minor as that seems I like it!
cnconrad
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1 I didn't say it negated it.
2 Are you saying this is a linear game? It is not if you have played it you would know that ... Regardless or linear or not nearly all, and I mean +95% of games that have loot and have combat have enemies that drop loot. One could very easily argue the fact that since the vast majority of all combat games with loot contain drops from enemies it's probably a popular mechanic.
3 Typically game creators take a few steps to avoid allowing a single person to destroy the enjoyment of others. If you feel that the fun pips should just pass the buck on that. Once again we clearly have VERY VERY different expectations.
Jedo
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1. You didn't say it, but your first two paragraphs were direct attempts at contradiction...of an opinion.
2. Did I say that this is a linear game? You said "there is supposed to be an incentive for combat as there is in nearly every game created." I was pointing out that this isn't true for most linear games (which themselves comprise "most games"). Now you have defined your argument more narrowly. That this mechanic is widely used among the narrower category might mean that it is popular. At the same time, the popularity of this mechanic doesn't mean that it should be in this game.
3. Interesting that you should bring that up. The change to significantly minimize zombie loot and remove the gore blocks is an attempt to avoid allowing a single person to destroy the enjoyment of others through the duping bug.
I am saying, however, that they do not have the responsibility to police all exploits which people might think up. Your examples fall into that category of things which have passed out of TFP's hands and into the hands of the server admins. (After all, those things aren't a problem for single and co-op players.)
Crater Creator
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There's been no mention of this happening that I can recall. It's not something that's just turned off for performance; it would have to be implemented as a genuine new feature.
Crater Creator
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Okay, people. I know we play fast and loose here, and I love the enthusiasm, but this is still not a chat room. Please don’t make posts just to increase the post count - it’s spam. There is plenty to read without drumming up conversation for its own sake. Also remember posts must be in English.
Space4Ace
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Alrighty then! I decided to play Alpha 9.3 a few days ago, just for fun, and... It really was fun to play! I started with A10 so I had never tried A9.
The game was pretty simple I guess compared to now, but still so much to love about it.
Right now, I decided that I would start an A16.4 Navezgane since I rarely ever play that map, and I will keep playing it until we get A17E.
The game was pretty simple I guess compared to now, but still so much to love about it.
Right now, I decided that I would start an A16.4 Navezgane since I rarely ever play that map, and I will keep playing it until we get A17E.
Qyzer
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Yes, because I will be able to again mod the game to the preferences of my family and to play the mods other people have worked on with what appears to be even more options (new buff system, new stuff, new pois, etc...)
I've found a few acres of spikes around any base tends to handle any horde. So a base of wood frames would probably work. If TFP have figured out how to deal with this, I will be more than happy to adjust my strategy for protecting my crafting base. Though I sometimes don't bother and just deal with all hordes by going out and dealing with them as they arrive.
I handle most 7 day hordes in the open with the help of various chemicals and the best weapons I have for the job. I'm very interested in see how needing to strafe instead of running backwards (which I thought was kind of cheesy, but I couldn't help myself) will change this.
Crater Creator
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No worries, forums were alive and well in 1999, too.But but "party like it's 1999"...
At least you gave Space4Ace post 30000 instead of Fat Cat with Panties (or whatever his name is).
Unbelievable
Honestly i can't even understand how you guys still excited for this new update, what they showed is basically almost the same game with a lot of cuts contents, i mean the graphic is updated but it doesn't look that different, it took 1 year for a single update (and the game is in alpha since 2013) to get what ? more deleted features than new ones ? WTF does it mean that my backpack have locked slots and i have to unlock them, where is the improvement in that ? No sense. What about the loot change + combat system revisited, adding a better attack and removing the backstep and directional sprint instead of a dodge and parry, that sound pathetic since the moment that sometimes zombies have to get hit on the head dozens of times even with firearms, hope at least hitboxes got fixed.
More veichles (with single seat because there's issues that need to be fixed... OK) but a smaller map, health and stamina nerf which cause a general less impact from the food and water mechanics,
also can some one explain me why the HUD stuff is incomplete ?
Why no more weapons or stuff like traps, materials and bulding has been added in the game ? it's sickening seeing always the same tools of death.
I don't even want to talk about the loot speech and all those dropped features which could have been a reason to not beeing disappointed in what i've seen from these previews
Basically this a17 seems like more graphic and less gameplay.
I'll try it without prejudice but i'm 80% sure i'll leave the game there where it is.
Honestly i can't even understand how you guys still excited for this new update, what they showed is basically almost the same game with a lot of cuts contents, i mean the graphic is updated but it doesn't look that different, it took 1 year for a single update (and the game is in alpha since 2013) to get what ? more deleted features than new ones ? WTF does it mean that my backpack have locked slots and i have to unlock them, where is the improvement in that ? No sense. What about the loot change + combat system revisited, adding a better attack and removing the backstep and directional sprint instead of a dodge and parry, that sound pathetic since the moment that sometimes zombies have to get hit on the head dozens of times even with firearms, hope at least hitboxes got fixed.
More veichles (with single seat because there's issues that need to be fixed... OK) but a smaller map, health and stamina nerf which cause a general less impact from the food and water mechanics,
also can some one explain me why the HUD stuff is incomplete ?
Why no more weapons or stuff like traps, materials and bulding has been added in the game ? it's sickening seeing always the same tools of death.
I don't even want to talk about the loot speech and all those dropped features which could have been a reason to not beeing disappointed in what i've seen from these previews
Basically this a17 seems like more graphic and less gameplay.
I'll try it without prejudice but i'm 80% sure i'll leave the game there where it is.
cnconrad
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Have any of TFP confirmed or denied that we will be able to mod back in Zombie gore and loot? I have messed with some xml's but i dont know what the limit is of what we can do.
I would love to know the answer. If i have to mod the game to get it back to what I enjoy so be it, I just hope that I can.
I would love to know the answer. If i have to mod the game to get it back to what I enjoy so be it, I just hope that I can.
cnconrad
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I know pathing has been your baby, have you done an actual in game horde night from the roof of a generic 2 story in nazgane?
I think i saw the ranger house was collapsed in a screenshot, but i had that happen once in a 16. I'm just looking forward to the in game effects of your changes in realistic scenarios.
cnconrad
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i was talking about the transition from dead to lootable gore pile. It is just a bit to jarring to my immersion to have a bunch of backpacks popping up and zombies vanishing with pops.
Perhaps if we can swap the backpacks for the guts loot item that you get if you ax a corpse with loot on it.
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4sheetzngeegles
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Faatal is there a spread on shotgun blast, like more than one target at a time. Orwas there always one that i did not notice?
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