PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17
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Re: map size, yes to everything. I'm not saying every rwg map would need to be small, but having the option there would be helpful to the PvP community. I'm pretty sure this is already in as of A17 so I'm not really worried about it, just pointing it out.
Re: hacking, for sure. It's not easy, but it's also the #1 problem with the game in public servers, especially PvP but coop as well.
Re: endgame, yeah I was just making random suggestions. The simplest course of action is to just have recurring wipes done by the server admins. It would be even better if it was on a global schedule across all servers (mimicking the way everyone wipes when a new update drops) but of course then you screw around with the autonomy of server owners and that's bad. Alternatively you could have a "global wipe" option, and servers can choose whether or not to participate in the global wipe schedule. Just thinking out loud really about possible ways we could keep it alive outside of new patches.
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4sheetzngeegles
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render cells matrix
0 = 1
1 = 9 3x3
2 = 25 5x5
3 = 49 7x7
4 = 81 9x9
5 = 144 12x12
if rwg cell is 1800 x 12 = 21600 meters total
I think Nav cells are 512x512 presently
look in the 7dtd world nav folder has 64 completed region files
In rwg before moving around you have 144 indexes but no region files
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I think the conversion of this to nav fomat is what they are doing
If im way off Ken please tell me
Qyzer
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Indeed, my personal preference is for daily or higher Z respawns and no loot respawn. I can and have modded the Z spawn rates, but it would be nice to have an easier option.
Indeed, right now I've just had to be an avid appreciator and apprentice of Tins work.
Agreed. As much as I overall love this game, one of the things I really dislike is the idea you would ever use infected human/Z body parts for anything in the game. I'd like to see bones, fat, and rotten meat only have animal sources (and yes I do mod this in my own games, but it bugs me when I play with others on servers who don't).
I'm hoping they drop them from the much lower Z loot (which I totally support for all the various reasons supporters have listed).
While I mostly agree, there are still indestructible POIs scattered through the world that are harder to ignore. I can mod them out, but I think " alone in the world" could be a valid non-mod option for those less inclined to mod, at least eventually.
I modded in one with as close as I could guess damage values (using things like muzzle energy and such as a basis) and had tons of fun using it for deconstruction. It was a bit overkill on Zs but it's a fun way to clear a poi (from the map
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Marinxar
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Someone released the Kraken prematurely
Hmm, yes, but not in this context.
I think even single player can keep people coming back again and again depending on what the individual finds interesting and engaging. PvP can extend the lifecycle of the game for some types of players, but it can also drastically shorten the lifespan (ragequitting when you get raided or hacked, etc.)
There is definitely a problem after gold, and I think the solution will come down to either some type of developer-assisted mechanic OR simply just admins doing revolving wipes on their servers.
KingSlayerGM
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I never said the contrary, I don't understand why you are telling me this.
Moreover you brought up this all map thing when you said:
But if you read the page i linked you. You would understand that this has nothing to do with what Gazz said.
This comment is BS. Gazz never talked about isolated conditions. Gazz made an absolute statement. You are just saying random stuff to have the last word.
PurgatoryWolf
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the houses are supposed to be crapped out, what better way to show their dilapidation then falling through the floor, or a zombie falling through the ceilings!
they wanted to come up with more challenges for us. sure it will be annoying, but i look forward to raging about falling through the floor.
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thanks for adding links to the vid and meme in the poll at the top!
The Gronk
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"It's already a stretch with the current rifles in the game and if you wanted to render the required voxel world up to say 400m, you'd get 1/16th of the FPS.
So below 4 FPS if you would normally have 60."
Gazz's original statement where he isolates the rendering of the voxel world without mentioning other systems, notice the prodigious use of "if" instead of "is" which indicates a non-absolute statement.
Aldranon
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Against a living, breathing man, its possible. But a creature that "lives" in the primitive regions of the brain, jamming their nose up into their frontal cortex will not be a fatal blow. You would need to not only snap their neck (its not like the movies) but completely sever the spinal cord from the brain.
I would say impossible while they are clawing the crap out of you the whole time. But since there are eternally puking zombies... sure, punch their lights out.
KingSlayerGM
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Fun fact:
'is' is a verb whereas 'if' is conjunction. They are not interchangeable.
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Brass knuckles into a decaying skull would do itAgainst a living, breathing man, its possible. But a creature that "lives" in the primitive regions of the brain, jamming their nose up into their frontal cortex will not be a fatal blow. You would need to not only snap their neck (its not like the movies) but completely sever the spinal cord from the brain. I would say impossible while they are clawing the crap out of you the whole time. But since there are eternally puking zombies... sure, punch their lights out.
HerrKingsley
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Please don't remove the gore blocks from the game.
Killing a Zombie without a visible backpack just to see it disparate from the earth and leaving a backpack in its place is immersion breaking.
Let us mod them in if we like.
Royal Deluxe
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Depends on your punchAgainst a living, breathing man, its possible. But a creature that "lives" in the primitive regions of the brain, jamming their nose up into their frontal cortex will not be a fatal blow. You would need to not only snap their neck (its not like the movies) but completely sever the spinal cord from the brain.
I would say impossible while they are clawing the crap out of you the whole time. But since there are eternally puking zombies... sure, punch their lights out.
Guppycur
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Rwg, by Guppy.
Maps are pre generated either in game or by 3rd party utility, which creates a height map, /hopefully/ uses splat maps for roads and biomes like nav does, an xml for prefabs like nav does, which then creates the region files, like nav does.
So basically Kin created a Rwg that creates a baked, yet editable, map, just like nav.
That's my take and I'm sticking with it.
Maps are pre generated either in game or by 3rd party utility, which creates a height map, /hopefully/ uses splat maps for roads and biomes like nav does, an xml for prefabs like nav does, which then creates the region files, like nav does.
So basically Kin created a Rwg that creates a baked, yet editable, map, just like nav.
That's my take and I'm sticking with it.
I am one of them. I have played a little 1442 hours since the alpha mmm..7 can't remember, solo or with my wife (no pvp here). Never really have anythings to say here, It's useless and toxic -without a very good reason- for the devellopers to criticize an alpha.
I Love that game, and all the directions TFP take for the game until now.
Aldranon
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Thats true.Depends on your punch
Calling on the power of Madmole before hitting a zombie should end him so completely they will be dead yesterday!
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SittingDuck
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early release stinks ^^
But realism sometimes takes a back seat to a 'poetic' license.- Status