Look man, you need to use a smiley face here n there. Cant tell if you're serious, sarcastic, happy or sad. You've got the tools, use 'em!well. AI system >>> reworked
sound optimization >>> reworked
graphics and shaders >>> reworked
crafting system >>> no info. (maybe surprise?)
sounds in total >>> in progress ( except the intro theme )
vehicles and physics >>> reworked
animations >>> maybe in progress ( not for A17 at least)
actually i said in A16 that its a whole new game, but it seems that i was wrong A17 is the total new game almost every thing is new and reworked , if i where you i would actually say to the hell with it and rework the rest of that stuff
, will i be happy with this
PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17
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SnowDog1942
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I will let you know. Roland, come over here a minute
Jackelmyer
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Based on all the AI discussion, maybe they'll go down corridors.
The AI Pathing as explained so far, zombies look at the total health of both the block at their feet and the block at their head. If that's true, and you line the corridors with traps, and your triangles are empty, they'll go through your walls and never touch the corridors. This would be because the total health of the path down your corridor is greater than going through 1 layer of walls.
Now, if this is a 70th day base, assuming you meant 7th day literally and your base is likely wood or cobble stone, on the 70th day, if those walls are reinforced concrete, and maybe 2 block thick, I'd have to math it but that should be more overall path health than if you have log spikes fully upgraded down the corridor. Maybe. Looking at your screenshot that's a pretty wide base. So still, zombies may path through 4 blocks (2 outer triangle and 2 blocks after getting inside the triangle assuming 2 block deep walls) of reinforced concrete.
The AI is about overall path total health as I understand it. Not about what block is in front of me right now.
So basically... Math out a line of health 3 blocks high, on any path. The path with the lowest health wins. Or so I understand.
Woops... and maybe not on all of this... As zombies can walk onto and over 1 block high of traps. Soooo... Yeah... Your base should have them pathing just fine.
Edit: Oh and I think faatal stated that block total health (including downgrades due to damage) is calculated. But I could be wrong on this point. But if true, that may include downgrades of log spikes due to damage.
Edit #2: And there will be a question about what the zombie is targeting. If anything in that base layout get's deemed as a "Support Block", should your character not be reachable directly by air blocks, they may turn on that "Support Block". So... say your triangle corners are steel but your walls are Reinforced Concrete. They may go after those steel blocks. Again, not sure here. But there was mention of targeting load bearing or supporting blocks... @faatal would have to chime in.
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wicketness
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Keep dreaming the current system is fine, this is the way mad mole wants the default experience to be and it is good there is reasons for it.
just do what i do play the default experience and when you change a setting that is modding it from the original experience.
they have forums and you can make your own website stating your settings etc etc, quit being lazy and put some real work in.
i have no issues populating a modded server, it just takes time and some work to be put in.
That's my Nickle EHHHH!!
A post without the l-word. Is that legal? :smile-new:
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Exxodous
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I was thinking more a late game base so the walls would be reinforced concrete and the corridors would be more turrets, dart traps and electric fences with maybe log spikes buried one block deep so they are walking on them. The inner square would be iron bars so that block health would be considerably less than the concrete.
My bigger concern is how far that block health calculation starts from the player. If I build too far out they will just stop and beat on the walls instead of going around?
CplCritter
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You want to "Have it your way"?!?! What is this, Burger King?!
Haha, jk. Just read to the end of the forum and couldn't think of anything intelligent to say. It would be cool to have some type of upgrade to the dart trap and make it adjustable up and down to accommodate for hills and ramps. I've never played with dart traps personally but maybe I would if they were more functional.
CplCritter
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Ok, I found something intelligent to say!
Has anyone heard of the "Zombies, Run!" app? It is an awesome app used while running. You are a runner for a group of survivors during the zombie apocalypse and you listen to these two survivors over radio communication while you are out scavenging. As you run, you "pick up" things from time to time like batteries and bandages. Randomly zombies start chasing you and you are supposed to run faster in real life until the threat is gone. After your run, you can open up the app and use items you picked up to upgrade your base (bandages upgrade the hospital, etc.).
Edited for horrible grammar: How cool would it be for 7DTD to partner with that app maker or make a similar app? It could reward you to go out and run! As you pick things up on your run, it transfers over to your 7DTD game. It encourages a healthier lifestyle and could give you the chance of getting rare loot.
Not my best idea and it is from way out in left field, but things tend to slow down on the forum when I get home from work so I get bored... You're welcome!
Has anyone heard of the "Zombies, Run!" app? It is an awesome app used while running. You are a runner for a group of survivors during the zombie apocalypse and you listen to these two survivors over radio communication while you are out scavenging. As you run, you "pick up" things from time to time like batteries and bandages. Randomly zombies start chasing you and you are supposed to run faster in real life until the threat is gone. After your run, you can open up the app and use items you picked up to upgrade your base (bandages upgrade the hospital, etc.).
Edited for horrible grammar: How cool would it be for 7DTD to partner with that app maker or make a similar app? It could reward you to go out and run! As you pick things up on your run, it transfers over to your 7DTD game. It encourages a healthier lifestyle and could give you the chance of getting rare loot.
Not my best idea and it is from way out in left field, but things tend to slow down on the forum when I get home from work so I get bored... You're welcome!
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The Real Joonbug
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it's interesting to think that because TFP actually have a forum for all their fanbase, they've put up with people crying like you. Honestly, I think it's pretty awesome that DEVs are STILL developing this game to be better. Better than buying some glitchy console game and paying $59.99 for it, only to find out that there will be no next "Alpha 2".
Your comments are rude and unnecessary. If you bought this game for $24.99, then you got MORE than what you paid for. If you bought it on sale for under $10, well, I don't even know what to say about your squabbling. And really? You didn't want a stable build? Hmmm... go back to your old console game and keep playing your glitches. Because apparently you think that's what you paid for...
CplCritter
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Yes sir, thank you sir!snip...
You found something intelligent to say???
Please take the rest of the day off.
The Real Joonbug
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Hey Roland, read the whole thing... thank you for that.
I know you tied this into the OP, but perhaps there are people who don't realize that there's an actual link to your explanation because it's not spelled out for them???
Not that I really think you guys needed to even give an explanation (because this world has really turned into the worst "Id" possible) (*for those reading this and don't know what an "id" is, go look up Freud*)... I'm grateful that you guys are still doing the work for this game.
There are those of us who keep playing and tie in different rules to the game while we wait for A17 to launch... it never really gets that old.
anyway, again - thanks.
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