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PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17
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KingSlayerGM
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Craftable guns to me sounds wrong, but I will try it and see first how it is actually implemented..
CplCritter
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I absolutely see your points and they are logical, but not everything in life is going to make sense... especially in games. This is still Alpha and it takes a certain mindset to be able to ride the highs and lows of a game still in development (I've learned this rather quickly and recently). Some changes you'll love and other changes you'll grit your teeth through, but the challenge is to have an open mind and at least give it a try. Just because I support the devs in their decision whether they make weapon mods detachable or not doesn't mean I don't agree with you - it just means I understand they are driving this bus and I am just a passanger... That is the agreement I signed on to when I purchased the EA game.Well thanks for at least trying to find a reason for this. It still makes no real sense as you could probably still remove it...
but at least you see my point and try to give an immersive reason on why its not removable
These devs are awesome because they listen to suggestions... I've seen faatal read a post, say, "this shouldn't be hard to do" (actually paraphrased, not a quote) and reply in a short amount of time saying it is done. We are fortunate for that, but they don't have to implement every suggestion... Just ones that fit into the world they are creating and won't disrupt current plans/timelines. We should be courtious when presenting our opinions. Words like, stupid, retarded, idiotic, etc just takes away from the actual idea and could be offensive resulting in your ideas not being taken serious. Hostility is never a good approach.
The struggle is real and choices are difficult to make - That is what they are trying to create from my understanding. If I find a sweet scope, but have a tier 1 hunting rifle it will be tempting to add it, but I will probably stash the scope for a later tier 3... OR attach it to increase effectiveness of my tier 1 hunting rifle for the quick benefits in early gameplay and hope I can find another sweet scope by the time I hit tier 3 for weapons.
Damn... I need to stop writing text walls, but this damn brain of mine won't let me! Had the same struggle in college lol... Lengthy paper writing was my strongsuit. My weakness was a maximum word count.
GrumpyGringo
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Not against permanent mods. It doesn't need to make sense. Once you dump alot of points into scavenging, you find guns often enough.
Gun mods always reminds me of Fallout 4. I thought their system was well done. At the end of the day, the mods came down to preference more than anything for me. You could always go for max damage. But towards end game, I always built the gun more for aesthetics, even if the damage wasn't as good. If the gun mods are fun to use and look awesome, no one is going to care either way. Customisation is key.
Gun mods always reminds me of Fallout 4. I thought their system was well done. At the end of the day, the mods came down to preference more than anything for me. You could always go for max damage. But towards end game, I always built the gun more for aesthetics, even if the damage wasn't as good. If the gun mods are fun to use and look awesome, no one is going to care either way. Customisation is key.
chaosterone
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Yes indeed. The solution seems simple, though. For those that will lose immersion over digital things, let them stay in A16....
The rest of us can play A17 and enjoy the heck out of it.
SnowDog1942
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I'd probably stay on A16, but I just cant pass up this talk about improved lighting in A17Yes indeed. The solution seems simple, though. For those that will lose immersion over digital things, let them stay in A16....
Guppycur
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I informed a modeler I have one if he needs reference pics... =)As an American whose favorite gun is the Winchester Model 94 Lever Action Rifle, I agree.
If one doesn't show up, I will probably have to mod it in myself. And if there isn't an already made model to grab, the wife and I are both working on learning Blender, and I'm slowly working on learning Unity, so at some point we should be able to get one in. I know there are some tutorials for putting new assets in the game in the mods section as well.
Roland
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That was actually the third post by my count that provided explanations for you as to why attachments might not be removable in reality after you pleaded for people to provide you with some in your original rant.Well thanks for at least trying to find a reason for this. It still makes no real sense as you could probably still remove it...
but at least you see my point and try to give an immersive reason on why its not removable
I guess all the caps typing and negative review posturing drowned it all out for you. Glad you finally relaxed enough to notice one of them.
Makes me wonder how many attempts to resolve your issue back in 2015 actually went unnoticed by you.
Also, Gazz was speaking in generalities and not to you specifically. As you pointed out, he doesn’t know you. But as a game designer and one of our lead guys on getting things balanced he has to think in terms of how people (not any specific person here) will try to game the systems he’s trying to balance and exploit them. You took it way too personally.
I’d chalk it up to just momentary anger at a disappointing announcement but even you admit that you’ve been grinding an axe for the last three years.
Isn’t it more work than it’s worth to be angry for three friggin years over a video game that costs $10 on sale? Don’t do this to yourself.
chaosterone
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Roland, we need a poll on this rifle of Guppys. Was it:
1) A single shot.
2) Magnum
3) Short barrel.
4) Long barrel.
5) Double barrel.
6) Sawed off.
7) Hunting rifle.
8) BB gun.
9) Toy rifle.
Maybe narrow this list to the three most likely?
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