PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17
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faatal
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It was not suddenly removed. I posted in this thread on 05-08-2018:
"Passengers will probably not be in A17. It is still buggy and Pathing/AI and other bug fixing is higher priority."
The code is still in there and you can get in a vehicle as a passenger, but the passenger will jitter around and not stay in his seat due to networking sync problems. Joel did not know this at the time, since I am the only one working on the feature and no one else had tried being a passenger. He was making a guess it would be ready based off my guess it would be ready. This is a team effort with many people. None of us know everything that everyone else is thinking or doing.
Priorities change and disappointment happens, but we try not to release features with obvious ugly bugs.
Roland
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faatal, you must know that there is no literal language that is strong enough to be able to overcome the imaginary "promise" that some people seem to see in every sentence a developer types. For example, in your last sentence up above you just "promised" to never release any feature with ugly bugs. That literal word "try" is invisible to them. Now, someone is going to find an ugly bug during experimental and say "The lazy devs lied!!!111111!!"
Rapunzel
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Hey, as long as the issue with vehicles falling through the world is fixed, I'll be content. That bug put a serious dent in my server's players' ability to explore and scavenge together, because we were always waiting for the world to load for one guy.
I'm also excited about RWG pregeneration. Of course I appreciate the work that goes into Navezgane, but I can't resist the unpredictable unknown terrain. I know one of Joel's videos showed POIs better integrated into the surrounding terrain, but was that just for Navezgane, or is the socket system changed for the better in A17? (Asking for a friend who last night accidentally drove a minibike off a massive cliff and landed with a thud in front of the trader compound.)
I'm also excited about RWG pregeneration. Of course I appreciate the work that goes into Navezgane, but I can't resist the unpredictable unknown terrain. I know one of Joel's videos showed POIs better integrated into the surrounding terrain, but was that just for Navezgane, or is the socket system changed for the better in A17? (Asking for a friend who last night accidentally drove a minibike off a massive cliff and landed with a thud in front of the trader compound.)
much appreciate the clarification, so it seems it boils down to my request that madmole not broadcast statements without knowing for sure its going to be in game. hell, if he had just worded it differently it wouldnt have been an issue with getting everyone hyped. as it was i saw your post back then but madmole said it was in the game and spoke at length about riding with friends and the like. i understand priorities change, more than probably alot of folks here, and disappointment is a part of life, but alot of disappointment can be avoided by having ducks in a row. thats really all ive been asking for is dont promise what your not sure about. jeep with multipassenger capability? "we are working on a jeep that can carry passengers" not "this jeep can carry passengers, its already in the game, but i havent seen it".
you folks have been doing great work and, while i may not agree with alot of the direction you folks are taking some of the features, doesnt make me want to quit the game. keep up the great work. peace.. see around a18
roland, that may be true of alot of folks, however it is not the case with me, i never said the lazy devs lied, my problem is that they arent communicating between themselves properly. for joel to tell us flat out in the video that the jeeps passenger ability was in the game and it would be in a17, then expound on that topic with statements like riding around with friends and the like. these arent imaginary roland, these are in the video joel released. but im done talking about this, keep up your shield wall and acting the troll when someone has a valid concern that is direct opposition to the devs are perfect mindset. you will see in my last response to faatal how much i appreciate the good work theyve been doing. peace out.
Jedo
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Of course, there also is the problem of those times when a feature seems to work, but after the addition of further systems and testing, it turns out not to work. Things change.
Consider instead when a friend calls you over to check something out, but by the time you get there it isn't happening anymore. Or maybe it was something that your friend was doing, but he's not able to duplicate it as well under the watchful eye of his friends. Was your friend lying or overpromising? No.
I've learned on forums that if a generic comment doesn't apply to you, then don't take it to be about you.
irongamer
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