chaosterone
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When we have pro-anti streamer and anti-pro streamer arguments, 10 forum pages per hour, and someone asks "How long till A18 comes out?", THEN we'll be close!
PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17
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Lonestarcanuck
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I support "The Gronk" on this one, Please make a New feature video
BUT don't give everything away! I do like to get shocked
Drithyl
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Game devs favour streamers because streamers are able to reach wider audiences than they'll ever be able to reach, so it's very good publicity. And very good publicity means more sales, which means ongoing support for the game, both in terms of bug fixes and of content. Long story short, anyone that likes the game should be happy that streamers are willing to stream it.
As for not having spoilers or anything, I can hardly understand that argument. Do you click on a stream or a youtube video that is streaming 7 days to die a17 experimental and then are shocked when some content is spoiled or something?
P.S.: I don't really watch streamers or youtubers other than very occasionally. I still don't hate them for getting early access or anything.
As for not having spoilers or anything, I can hardly understand that argument. Do you click on a stream or a youtube video that is streaming 7 days to die a17 experimental and then are shocked when some content is spoiled or something?
P.S.: I don't really watch streamers or youtubers other than very occasionally. I still don't hate them for getting early access or anything.
Pokketninja
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I agree with that. Us as streamers advertise the game and try to bring new people in that has never seen the game. With spoilers, it's no different then when Joel will post videos on A17. You want to see as much info as you can for any new Alphas.
Xrt
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Agreed as well, as far as getting the product out to more people, good for TFPs.
I remember I wasn't on board with the whole Stream Team thing when it was first announced, as with many others, it didn't set right.
But, we didn't have to wait for like months or even weeks to play it after the Stream Team was done showcasing.
It was just to bring more hype to an upcoming release, and I think it did wonders on sales & popularity.
I don't think I'll watch the streamers this year, I want to experience the new car smell for myself.
(Watching streamers play is like watching a cooking channel and the adult channel in picture-in-picture, I really want to eat that, and those fluffy hamburgers look good too) :laugh:
I remember I wasn't on board with the whole Stream Team thing when it was first announced, as with many others, it didn't set right.
But, we didn't have to wait for like months or even weeks to play it after the Stream Team was done showcasing.
It was just to bring more hype to an upcoming release, and I think it did wonders on sales & popularity.
I don't think I'll watch the streamers this year, I want to experience the new car smell for myself.
(Watching streamers play is like watching a cooking channel and the adult channel in picture-in-picture, I really want to eat that, and those fluffy hamburgers look good too) :laugh:
cnconrad
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It's cheap advertising. Think about it, ign PC gamer or any of them are not going to cover 7 days to die 5 years later for a single update.
There are enough people who have played then walked away or just never jumped in that allowing folks like the girl I quoted to get the game a few days to a week early is very good return on investment.
At most it costs @roland a few "that no good M-Fer" comments but lets face it if we are still checking in on a 5 year old game that has had nearly a year with no updates they are not going to run off and quit because of it.
freakii
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/sarcasm
Stream Team whats that?
Since the announcement of this becoming a thing has lowered my interest in watching YouTube and Twitch. Why? Because hearing them not knowing how to work stuff in game is a joke, specifically when supposedly you've around for a while.
Personally watching anyone outside the dev team showcase the progress is a waste..
Pimps, continue to do a great job, many of us are waiting patiently for you to release updates when you feel it has come to that point.
Stream Team whats that?
Since the announcement of this becoming a thing has lowered my interest in watching YouTube and Twitch. Why? Because hearing them not knowing how to work stuff in game is a joke, specifically when supposedly you've around for a while.
Personally watching anyone outside the dev team showcase the progress is a waste..
Pimps, continue to do a great job, many of us are waiting patiently for you to release updates when you feel it has come to that point.
I know they were working on something that I didn't understand with the coordinates of your player so that the maps could be bigger? Is Navezgane going to be the same map as it was? Will I see the new features random gen with Alpha 17? I was confused, thanks. I really enjoy the bigger maps but obviously want the bells and whistles.
dhlmaster
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I think it's called origin point. It sounds like each region will have an origin point instead of the entire map having a single origin point at 0,0. This will help prevent the shaky hands you get when you get further from the center. This could possibly lead to the ability to make bigger maps, but the devs have not said that we will see bigger maps in a17 as far as I recall. Modders could probably do it, though. From one of Madmole's videos it looks like there will be a new portion of the Navezgane map near Perishton.
Unkfester.pm
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Remember when madmole droped his bow
The Gronk
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Okay, I've got a few minutes, let's see if I can explain this in a way you can get your head around. I've implemented this myself on a far larger scale so I know it well.
As it stands going further than 10km from the centre of the map causes issues with the character shaking, the further you get from centre the worse it becomes. This is mostly caused by unity's strange insistence on using "float" instead of "double" for the main playing area. This would still happen if they used doubles but you'd have a far larger distance before the shaking occurs.
The way to solve this is that when the character gets too far from the centre of the map you then redraw the map with the characters current location at the centre.
For example, you travel West for 10km, before the shaking becomes a real issue. At that point the map is redrawn but offset 10km West, you're still 10km from the original centre of the map but the players character is in the centre of the playing area where the shaking doesn't occur.
You can hide the redrawing of the map from the player and, with a bit of programming skill, the transition should be largely unnoticable as the only things that really need to be moved are the player and any Z's that may be around.
I managed to generate a 1,000,000 km wide map using this technique before the libnoise library started to break down, it simply couldn't calculate the map with enough accuracy. 1 trillion square kilometres of terrain... damn... I _still_ like hearing the sound of that
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JaxTeller718
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I died on the streamer hill last year and Im not afraid to admit that I was thoroughly wrong over it. Streaming is the future of advertisement like it or not, and their team is comprised of good people. I have enjoyed getting to know Bearded Guys Gaming, Kage is a huge fan of Ravenhearst and fun as hell to watch and Pokket is very awesome to her audience and just had a very successful charity stream. Kickz speaks for himself. He's a great guy who deserves his success and ALL of the above are fans of the game as well.
There are plenty of other things to get mad about. If anything the streaming actually helped keep a few major bugs from creeping into Experimental that EVERYONE would female dog about, even though you try to say you wouldn't have.
So yeah, lighten up on the streamers guys. Like Gup said the QUALIFIED forum members are already either on the Dev Team or are already beta testing.
There are plenty of other things to get mad about. If anything the streaming actually helped keep a few major bugs from creeping into Experimental that EVERYONE would female dog about, even though you try to say you wouldn't have.
So yeah, lighten up on the streamers guys. Like Gup said the QUALIFIED forum members are already either on the Dev Team or are already beta testing.
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