PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17

[Xeen]

I would like to see a Wind Turbine added as an option for power generation this would compliment the "off the grid" methods currently available.

 

[kamer1337]

wasn't water better in alpha 13 than now?

 

[Scyris]

As a guy that played 7 days do die since A1 having probably around 5k hours or more, thats owns Ark, Rust and other big survivals. i can tell you i know personally dozens if not hundreds of people that gave up on 7dtd because of the pvp instability. They switched to Ark, Rust, Connan and so on not because those games are better but because 7dtd is almost unplayable at pvp. I dont know exact amounts but i can tell you i played on every big pvp server, and nowdays there are barley 1-2 europe, 1-2 russia 1-2 Us good servers while back then before a12 when you could run decently 50-60 players on a map there were dozens of servers and all full regardless of week days. No matter what they do or how hard Devs can try this will never be a good single player game or coop. Ai is Ai and you have minecraft building style, in 2 hours you can beat the game is simple as that. While if it is pvp multi everything changes and gets meaning, from hoarding loot into making a good base design, playstyle everything... even the zombies are complementing so good the pvp in game creating amazing situations. I dont know if it was intentional or not but TFP hit the jackpot on the ideea of the survival multi player. And the day they wil focus on the pvp and multiplayer side to have at least 50-60 slots stable. Every other surv game will become a desert.
Or if they dont i almost bet at some point somone will copy all the ideeas point it in the right way and will get out a big ass game loved by everyone

Beat the game in 2 hours? You technacally can't "beat the game" because it has no scripted end. It takes far longer than 2 hours to even get established, you mean to tell me you got concrete/steel buildings steel tools at 450-500+ quality, a minibike and a ton of weapons and ammo by day 3? The problem with pvp in these games is the games are meant for a pve experence mostly, and pvp pretty much kills that aspect as the only threat then is other players. I don't even like playing 7dtd multiplayer co-op because to me the game gets way to easy when you have mutiple people working together. If you can "beat the game in 2 hours" pvp should be good, since your fully geared in 2 hours or less.

Try playing 7dtd on insane by yourself, in single player, its a joke with multiple people, but try doing it on your own, its not nearly as easy.

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wasn't water better in alpha 13 than now?

I remember that, what happened to that water in the later alpha's that it got downgraded so much?

 

[Scyris]

You can definitely drop the mic with that reply. If anyone still don't get it, they are either trolling, or will never get it.

Never under-estimate how stupid todays gamers are. It happens many times that they can have the thing right smack in front of them telling them how to do something and they STILL need to ask others how to do it, and have their hand held. I blame this on the fact of how casualified games are these days. Way to much hand holding goes on. Its why I like 7dtd, you have that short tutorial for 5 skill points, then lead to yoru first trader, but after that, your pretty much on your own.

 

[Ouch Quit It]

Coughs * VIDEO * Coughs

 

[Scyris]

Question
What always bugged me, that the damage of guns got reduced, the more the quality goes down.

With the new Buff System, how about leaving the Damage Constant at X, but add Chances for Stuck Weapons, Exploding rounds in the Barrel, and such stuff ( English Terms missing, sorry ), Meaning making the gun faulty / non functioning, the more quality goes down.

Zed come at you, you have a 20% Weapon. You have Ammo and pull the Trigger, but only a "click" is to hear... thats where the panic begins.

I always hated that aspect myself, once a item hits half durability it takes a massive hit to performance all of a sudden, you can notice this alot with tools mainly. It starts gradually but farther you go from the halfway point the sharper the drop comes. IMO the performance shouldn't drop at all, until its at like 10% durability left.

This brings me to ask a question though: how will repairs work in A17? as now quality goes from 1-600 and you lose a percent of quality on a repair, but in A17 everything only has 6 quality levels now. Will the quality drop on repairs be removed? if so I don't mind having to repair at half durability. I am just wondering how its going to work when it goes from 600 quality levels down to 6.

I'm also not a fan of the permament hp bar damage till you heal it with first-aid bandages/kits, I hated how rads in falout 4 lowered my max hp, its a ocd thing I feel, that bar not being full just bothers the hell out of me for some inane reason.

 

[Scyris]

For your weekend contemplation, I started on AI obstacle checking for other animals/zombies and when blocked they flail and push/ragdoll what was in their way. Pretty amusing watching a pack knocking each other down to get to you.
In theory this will be used to push the pack forward, supplement wall damage, assist with climbing, allow big guys to surge through and maybe toss around the little guys (a bit).

I rather like the sound of this, watching the zombies ragdoll each other is going to be a pretty big source of entertainment for me. Like anytime I go into one of those army camps the ones with land mines everywhere, I usually fire off a loud gun a few times, to draw some nearby zombies, just so I can laugh my arse off when they step on a mine and get ragdolled right up in the air. It never gets old heh.

 

[Delkadous]

Means we get a world wipe then eh? I just started on a nice castle in a Random Gen too T_T lol

 

[Gnomaana]

I would like to vote against any type of enemy HP bar. it really takes away from the immersion and turns the game into more of a RPG style then Survival. The guess work of when an enemy is going to die is awesome and the feeling you get when it finally goes down is even better. The same with the XP bar, i get more joy from the sudden "hey! you leveld up!" then having (again) the RPG style XP bar on my screen. This is also coming from a person who enjoys a minimal UI. the less stuff on screen the better. I don't mind hitting C to check my character stats in game. Having the XP bar will ultimately make people want to just simply grind out levels then enjoy the game. Its a visual cue for "oh, I'm almost there.. whats a few more zombies?" End up dying or some crap like that. It's just my two cents on the matter.
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Means we get a world wipe then eh? I just started on a nice castle in a Random Gen too T_T lol

Has there ever been an Alpha that didn't require a world wipe?

 

[The Gronk]

I remember that, what happened to that water in the later alpha's that it got downgraded so much?

The old system was open to exploitation by griefers, you could drown a base with a few buckets of water.

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Has there ever been an Alpha that didn't require a world wipe?

No, there hasn't as far as I can remember.

 

[Menace312]

Surely months to release yet, though.

So game away

 

[Kalex]

Com on man. That's what those shows are all about. Drawing out the drama and milking that for all its worth. So people keep watching it and paying for it.

That's exactly why I quit watching The Walking Dead two and a half seasons ago. FTWD seems to be a bit faster paced, but I'm sure eventually they will get to the milking phase as well and I will stop watching it as well.

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I remember that, what happened to that water in the later alpha's that it got downgraded so much?

Getting rid of those stupid (and exploitive) water elevators probably.

 

[Snowydeath]

Science. Weird Science.

You mean you created a woman with your computer???!!!?

 

[Snowydeath]

can we have a sombrero?

That would work nicely with the Poncho!

 

[cevkiv]

You mean you created a woman with your computer???!!!?

That or with people constantly complaining, "From my heart and from my hand why don't people understand my intentions?"

 

[beerfly]

That would work nicely with the Poncho!

And navezgane radio stations that depends on biomes, far south mexican music, north whatever it is and depending if you are on a hill you get better and more stations. Better - a quests involving bandits , who also listen this radio station. Had this in mind recently and scraches my brain a bit. Even a mod for ingame radio would be fun, so if you listen lauder you won`t hear the horde or the doggie parade closing in.

 

[beerfly]

But once I become the: "Maximum Melee Mincing Machine" then kill count will go up... a bit.

We`ll all be killing machines with chance to fail set on 50% . I really want Pimps make us survive in style, could be very tough but will worth it.

Agree that they should not tell us how exactly AI works. Finding how devs challenged themselves to challenge us is something I can`t wait for

 

[cevkiv]

We`ll all be killing machines with chance to fail set on 50% . I really want Pimps make us survive in style, could be very tough but will worth it. Agree that they should not tell us how exactly AI works. Finding how devs challenged themselves to challenge us is something I can`t wait for

I have this repeated issue, and it happens every time, and it could entirely be a base design and/or placement problem, where past day 49 I just can't repair my base or rearm myself fast enough to survive wandering packs and the next blood moon. So 'in style' might be a bit hard for me.

 

[beerfly]

I have this repeated issue, and it happens every time, and it could entirely be a base design and/or placement problem, where past day 49 I just can't repair my base or rearm myself fast enough to survive wandering packs and the next blood moon. So 'in style' might be a bit hard for me.

I got 3 secure places made from concrete and tomorrow ingame is my 49th day. A double fenced concrete wall around my house, a small tower 7x7x4 with inside space to shoot and loot, and a bridge between them with 4 blade traps along the way between the house and the tower. How you do this ?

 

[Gazdagamer]

Alpha 17 for ps4

Hi I would just like to ask why alpha 16 hasn't been released for ps4.have the developers given up on console or will it be released when alpha 17 comes out. I am really looking forward to having turrets and spinning blades defending my home if I could get a reply it would be greatly appreciated anyway have a great day.