PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17

[Gmad03]

One thing I would like to know is for a17 are hit boxes getting fixed? Punching through grass and a arrow through a zombies face that doesn’t actually hit sucks pretty bad.

 

[Aldranon]

Forget story mode, just make the world have dynamic factions and events.
You do stuff and the world changes as a result. Like killing lots of a faction makes them hate you etc

This is precisely what games of the future will have. Not a mindless "story" like Fallout 4 where nothing you do or say matters, until you actually start shooting at a faction.

Of course, making a dynamic story board with many, many paths, would be cutting edge (difficult). It is the future in gaming for sure.

 

[DeadMole]

Sooooo...now that we've discussed story, what else is there to discuss?

Yeah, I didn't mean to hijack the thread and get into a huge argument (especially not about Minecraft) but too late for that eh. I think I got my point across by now, so I'll just leave it be.

 

[Roland]

Well I want to be clear that I’m not against a story line or main quest chain. My only point is that it can come after gold. The game can ship complete as a sandbox survival game and then a story mode can be added, a horde mode can be added, a Battle Royale mode can be added. The game could go beta after A17. Heck, they could call the next release Beta 1.0 instead of Alpha 17 making the current A16 the last alpha.

 

[h0tr0d]

I always thought a SP intro like in CoD or Halo, or some rpg/mmo do; you could "come to" in Navezgane hospital and have clues hit you like alan wake, maybe you see the mushroom cloud, meh.

 

[Roland]

Who the heck are you?!?!!

 

[beerfly]

I always thought a SP intro you could "come to" in Navezgane hospital and have clues hit you like alan wake, maybe you see the mushroom cloud, meh.

This I thought when saw the hospital for the first time.

 

[JaxTeller718]

Well I want to be clear that I’m not against a story line or main quest chain. My only point is that it can come after gold. The game can ship complete as a sandbox survival game and then a story mode can be added, a horde mode can be added, a Battle Royale mode can be added. The game could go beta after A17. Heck, they could call the next release Beta 1.0 instead of Alpha 17 making the current A16 the last alpha.

Ohhh man. You just HAD to say BR mode didn't you.

I've never been absolutely positively opposed to ANYTHING, but a BR mode I will shout from the highest mountain tops AGAINST. If only because of not only the TYPE of player it attracts but personally BR modes are absolutely lazy and "flavor of the month". I hope to heck it doesn't ever include a BR mode.

I watched H1Z1 just Survive go from a survival game in development to utter crap because it added a BR mode and then became obsessed with it over survival. I know the money is BIG in that right now, but all i have seen when a BR mode gets added is an influx of JUST FPS fanboys who infect the Survival mode with demands to make it more pew pew and RUIN it.

 

[DaVegaNL]

Bottom line is we're getting more vehicles, we're getting quests, we're getting bandits, we're getting a story, so what's the rush?
If they bust those out too soon, maybe we don't get a boat, or horses, or conversation script access, or (insert thing we'll likely get but is not on the official list here).

It would be nice to see something on that though.. In stead of having to rely on the almighty word of.. the kickstarter-list?

 

[ParaSyt]

Forget story mode, just make the world have dynamic factions and events.
You do stuff and the world changes as a result. Like killing lots of a faction makes them hate you etc

So you mean to say, 7D2D Story = Make your own story. People that can't have fun in a sandbox game and need someone to hold your hand and put you on a track to show you a pretty show, 7D2D is not for you.

Ohhh man. You just HAD to say BR mode didn't you.
I've never been absolutely positively opposed to ANYTHING, but a BR mode I will shout from the highest mountain tops AGAINST. If only because of not only the TYPE of player it attracts but personally BR modes are absolutely lazy and "flavor of the month". I hope to heck it doesn't ever include a BR mode.

I watched H1Z1 just Survive go from a survival game in development to utter crap because it added a BR mode and then became obsessed with it over survival. I know the money is BIG in that right now, but all i have seen when a BR mode gets added is an influx of JUST FPS fanboys who infect the Survival mode with demands to make it more pew pew and RUIN it.

On one hand I agree with you. I loved playing Fortnite before BR got on there. Very hipster of me I know. What stopped me from playing it was the repetition. Once you get to Plankertown it was the same ol same ol. The hype for BR looked fun but it was not my bag.

Now on the other hand I think 7D2D could make BR fun and I would actually give it a try. Just adding in the zombies and sleepers while you scramble to get weapons would be a game changer. Then instead of a magic blue death ring closing in, 7D2D could do a perimeter of special feral zombies closing in to the center. Either way if they add BR I can't imagine it taking away anything that we do not already have or the modders like yourself can make. I'd still play 7D2D survival because it has something to come back to. 7D2D BR would be a nice quicky before I head to work.

 

[DaVegaNL]

I got to ask. Are TFP's planning to put bandits in A-17???

They won't answer this mate. 2/3rds of my own posts over the past few months have been about them.

 

[wordwaster]

gyrocopters?

...gyrocopters?

rafts.

swimming.

water physics.

npcs.

boredom underground.

but...gyrocopters?

priorities are not properly prioritized.

 

[DaVegaNL]

gyrocopters?
...gyrocopters?

rafts.

swimming.

water physics.

npcs.

boredom underground.

but...gyrocopters?

priorities are not properly prioritized.

Yep. Don't worry, they are building the foundations for the NPC's and bandits. Like they did in A15.

 

[Survager]

Some questions for Roland, Gazz, Unholyjoe

- Will the character be able to repel zombies with his hands or kick the zombies with his feet?

- Will the image of the hands change depending on what is worn on the character?

- Will there be any changes in the customization of the character's appearance in 17 Alpha?

There is also a question about changing weapons when modifying.
For example, I have a hunting rifle or AK47. When I take aim, I mean the usual sight.

If I install an optical sight on this gun (AK47), can I see the optical sight when I aim?

Roland, Gazz may be Unholyjoe, what about my questions? Do you have answer?

Maybe some of the answers will be in a new video from Joel?

Thanks.

 

[Gipothegip]

Ohhh man. You just HAD to say BR mode didn't you.
I've never been absolutely positively opposed to ANYTHING, but a BR mode I will shout from the highest mountain tops AGAINST. If only because of not only the TYPE of player it attracts but personally BR modes are absolutely lazy and "flavor of the month". I hope to heck it doesn't ever include a BR mode.

I watched H1Z1 just Survive go from a survival game in development to utter crap because it added a BR mode and then became obsessed with it over survival. I know the money is BIG in that right now, but all i have seen when a BR mode gets added is an influx of JUST FPS fanboys who infect the Survival mode with demands to make it more pew pew and RUIN it.

But what about cracking a cold one and playing PBR mode? :drum:

 

[Guppycur]

It would be nice to see something on that though.. In stead of having to rely on the almighty word of.. the kickstarter-list?

But we have; and you've been around long enough to know it.

...damn I had a geology question for you, but can't remember it...

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gyrocopters?
...gyrocopters?

rafts.

swimming.

water physics.

npcs.

boredom underground.

but...gyrocopters?

priorities are not properly prioritized.

Gyrocopters were already more or less in the game assets, so it was closer to being done.

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Roland, Gazz may be Unholyjoe, what about my questions? Do you have answer? Maybe some of the answers will be in a new video from Joel?

Thanks.

Next video is supposed to be special attacks and weird crap, so you'll probably see some of what you're looking for this weekend.

 

[Aldranon]

How some people feel about Story Lines/Plots:

I'm all for game modes, cuz choices means more play time!

 

[DaVegaNL]

But we have; and you've been around long enough to know it.
...damn I had a geology question for you, but can't remember it...

Well, perhaps. But the data on those topics is even more sparse than the data I'm usually working with..

If you remember your question, let me know man! You rock!

 

[KingSlayerGM]

Minecraft itself is wildly successful AND it has no story mode.

Yes but where are the pistons in 7DTD?

This may sound like a silly response, but it carries a meaningful message. Which is:

7DTD does not offer as many things to build, to invent, to craft, to desing as Minecraft.

 

[Gipothegip]

Yes but where are the pistons in 7DTD?

This may sound like a silly response, but it carries a meaningful message. Which is:

7DTD does not offer as many things to build, to invent, to craft, to desing as Minecraft.

Minecraft is also a vastly different concept than this game, to be fair.

Minecraft is by far more oriented towards creative gameplay.