Xtrakicking
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Awesome! So the hijack system we talked about a while ago is planned then. Great news.
PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17
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Flat0ut
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Thanks for welcoming meWelcome to the 7daystodie forum and be warned anything can happen here.
1. development of new ideas and restructure is not a waste of development... regardless if we like or dislike something (the game is not out of development yet and anything can be added or taken out).
2. "Nobody wants game turn into some Fallout based RPG"? betcha there are a lot of people here who may want just such a thing. it can be asked and you can see by the threads here that 50 different people will want 50 different styles/variations of the game.
3. Heads Up... things can change but MM said in one of his recent videos that the car is a place holder as the 4WD is a truck/SUV type vehicle not a car... (but i said things can change).
enjoy your stay.
I just wanted to say my own opinion. I was watching this thread long time ago before i registered. 4WD car is something that doesn't let me sleep. I would be very dissapointed if this concept gets scrapped.
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Xtrakicking
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A.I better be good then. I'm getting L4D2 PTSD flashbacks just thinking about it.
(on group quests for SP)
I think the HP bar is because of one single feature: Regeneration. Any normal monster can be killed by just shooting/hitting long enough. If you encounter it again you know if its worth doing it.
But regeneration pisses on the parade (lots of reference to bladder function lately. Is this a trend?). A beginner has no realistic chance to find out about regeneration except by reading about it in a forum/wiki. Books and Info pages inside the game are unreliable as well, many people don't read them (their fault but a game developer has to account for that) or don't find them.
So what would be a good in-game way to inform a player that regeneration exists? I can think of a few:
1) You find a corsett of health regeneration. No, that is not magic at all, it was developed by a mad scientist and it simply injects you with very low doses of glowing zombie serum whenever you need it (indicated by low blood pressure and pain nerves signals). Side effect is you start to glow. Now this should give the player a hint "glowing=regeneration", also the description of the device should practically give it away.
2) Instead of a corsett make it a serum (and make one ingredient part of irradiated zombie loot)
3) Naturally books are a nice way to inform the player, it is just difficult with random loot to make sure the player sees it. Maybe a quest on the main quest line should always provide the book that tells of dangerous regenerating zombies.
4) if the health of the zombie is shown as part of the texture and/or posture, that would be ideal but needs lots of work from the graphics developers.
5) Remember the Fallout 3 quest "Writing a survivor handbook". This is the quest which made me like Fallout 3, whatever shortcomings it had otherwise. Ok, simply copying the idea won't work well, but something similar could make a nice continuation of the starting quests. Example: Some scientist hires you to find out stuff about the zombies. Can they reproduce? Is there still blood in zombies? Do they pick up stuff or is their loot always stuff they owned while alive? ;-). And ... how do irradiated zombies regenerate? Finding out about that could be a cool quest to go into higachi tower and find out more about the research done in there.
Beware! This is where madness lies. At least for developers foolish enough to try it.
That solution makes it even more arcady. "Look, this is a boss!! He is special because he has a HP bar".
I think the HP bar is because of one single feature: Regeneration. Any normal monster can be killed by just shooting/hitting long enough. If you encounter it again you know if its worth doing it.
But regeneration pisses on the parade (lots of reference to bladder function lately. Is this a trend?). A beginner has no realistic chance to find out about regeneration except by reading about it in a forum/wiki. Books and Info pages inside the game are unreliable as well, many people don't read them (their fault but a game developer has to account for that) or don't find them.
So what would be a good in-game way to inform a player that regeneration exists? I can think of a few:
1) You find a corsett of health regeneration. No, that is not magic at all, it was developed by a mad scientist and it simply injects you with very low doses of glowing zombie serum whenever you need it (indicated by low blood pressure and pain nerves signals). Side effect is you start to glow. Now this should give the player a hint "glowing=regeneration", also the description of the device should practically give it away.
2) Instead of a corsett make it a serum (and make one ingredient part of irradiated zombie loot)
3) Naturally books are a nice way to inform the player, it is just difficult with random loot to make sure the player sees it. Maybe a quest on the main quest line should always provide the book that tells of dangerous regenerating zombies.
4) if the health of the zombie is shown as part of the texture and/or posture, that would be ideal but needs lots of work from the graphics developers.
5) Remember the Fallout 3 quest "Writing a survivor handbook". This is the quest which made me like Fallout 3, whatever shortcomings it had otherwise. Ok, simply copying the idea won't work well, but something similar could make a nice continuation of the starting quests. Example: Some scientist hires you to find out stuff about the zombies. Can they reproduce? Is there still blood in zombies? Do they pick up stuff or is their loot always stuff they owned while alive? ;-). And ... how do irradiated zombies regenerate? Finding out about that could be a cool quest to go into higachi tower and find out more about the research done in there.
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The Gronk
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It may be a little late if they've already had an encounter with one.
Such information should be easily (and optionally) obtainable from merchants. They've been surviving for a while and I doubt they want their customers to die too quickly.
Other in-game cues could be things like posters put up during the final days of the apocalypse or simple graffiti as a warning to others.
Roland
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Unknown. The team will be discussing it when they are back from the holidays. The bar shown in the video was simply a concept design and not final. Madmole said that for group quests the developers felt there was some necessary information that would need to be communicated to all party members. Hp bar and perhaps some pop up icons to show special abilities are what is being discussed. We’ll see what they decide.
Xtrakicking
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Looks like only when they are targetted.
Clippy, is that you? Are you trying to come back from your grave in Redmond Central Cemetry ?
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