PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17

[Drunknmunkey]

Originally, it was a game developed by Interplay. The first 2 were more difficult but, had to be adapted from 3rd person turn-based when bethesda picked up the rights to make Fallout 3. Much was lost in translation from turn-based to real time. Slowing time helped with vats and now with 76's auto-aim, it feels clunky attempting to keep the best parts of the original game. The original was more entertaining as far as dark humor and popular culture references. I doubt 76 will be anything more than go here, kill that, wash rinse repeat. But, it's something to do while waiting to see if falling through the world on vehicles has actually been fixed (for the 4th time) :smile-new:

 

[JDogg126]

You do realize, we are not telling you anything. As in we are not emailing, texting, calling or walking up to you and talking to you. We make posts in our forums, which you then come here and read.
The patient says, "Doctor, it hurts when I do this." "Then don't do that!"

I think some folks may have interpreted Madmole's "A17 Release the Kraken!!!" video on youtube 4 months ago to imply a release of some form was close. Joel certainly answers the "When will it be done?" question directly in that video by saying "It will be done when it's done." And while no guaranteed timeline was given, I think a reasonable person could see why some excited fans might count that as the fun pimps "talking to them" and jumped to a conclusion that A17 was close to coming out in some form. I would hope that those same folks would be reasonable and not get all bent out of shape that it is taking longer than hoped to wrap up work on A17. I think you guys are doing a great job and this game is going to be more than I ever hoped for when I backed the kickstarter. Keep holding the hammer!

 

[faatal]

Feature freeze means that no new features are added to the game, but whatever feature already implemented might still being worked on and so, not yet complete.And that could have changed since June or July... Or whatever!!! I give up. Feeding the troll only makes him bigger and meaner.

Right. Back in June I said:

"Really it should be called Major Feature Freeze, since smaller planned features are still getting added that we deem required for A17."

Tweaking features so they work how you want them to, happens right up to the done date.

 

[Kalyori]

You will be soooo happy to know I fixed the dog and wolf character controller height today, so they can fit through 1m high openings.

Who went and reported this as a bug????? :miserable:

 

[Roland]

I don't take issue with the wait. I just think the lack of communication during the wait is what gets to me. Now I don't want daily updates, but a weekly post as to what's holding up the progress or just a general update would be nice over the past emoji changes and a random tweet from Mole. Though it's nice that Faatal does answer questions, but I would like to see a bit more transparency on how things are progressing (not a release date). I'm probably alone on this, but I just would like to read a paragraph or two of just what's happening.

Nothing is holding up the progress. The developers are methodically working through their tickets which include tasks to finish features and fix bugs. The testers are writing new tickets for the developers to fix as they find issues while playing. Everything is progressing well but there is a lot to do. As you know Madmole has been working on the perk system and designing what all the perks are going to do when purchased. Gazz is going behind him and hooking them up so that they will actually do what the descriptions state. faatal continues to work on pathing and vehicles. Prime is finishing quests and working on the user interface for things like vehicle inventory and other issues regarding the interface. Kinyajuu has been working on Area of Effect issues and buffs and random gen.

Changes made just the other day required all old saves to be deleted and a fresh start made. It's changes like that which prevent the game from being appropriate for general consumption.

Progress is happening all the time.

 

[Blake_]

Right. Back in June I said:"Really it should be called Major Feature Freeze, since smaller planned features are still getting added that we deem required for A17."

Tweaking features so they work how you want them to, happens right up to the done date.

Never fooled me of course. But isn't it right that 94875692874 minor features compare to at least 3,1416 big ones? Damn it still feels like feature freeze is far away and the game is still moving forward.

Features confirmed!

 

[SnowDog1942]

Nothing is holding up the progress. The developers are methodically working through their tickets which include tasks to finish features and fix bugs. The testers are writing new tickets for the developers to fix as they find issues while playing. Everything is progressing well but there is a lot to do. As you know Madmole has been working on the perk system and designing what all the perks are going to do when purchased. Gazz is going behind him and hooking them up so that they will actually do what the descriptions state. faatal continues to work on pathing and vehicles. Prime is finishing quests and working on the user interface for things like vehicle inventory and other issues regarding the interface. Kinyajuu has been working on Area of Effect issues and buffs and random gen.
Changes made just the other day required all old saves to be deleted and a fresh start made. It's changes like that which prevent the game from being appropriate for general consumption.

Progress is happening all the time.

Curious if the number of prefabs have increased since an estimate was given several months back?

 

[2l82run]

I think it would be nice to have a daily update or short video, like madmole use to do at least 2 a week now it's over a month wait time. If there is a daily update please link me to it. I have looked on here and on the blog. Love the game but after you reach a certon level there are still purks to buy but it stops giving points. so the game just gets boring.

 

[NBornkilla]

I think it would be nice to have a daily update or short video, like madmole use to do at least 2 a week now it's over a month wait time. If there is a daily update please link me to it. I have looked on here and on the blog. Love the game but after you reach a certon level there are still purks to buy but it stops giving points. so the game just gets boring.

if you read this thread you could see the developer talking about stuff madmole give screenshot here and there on twitter.

 

[Space4Ace]

Nothing is holding up the progress. The developers are methodically working through their tickets which include tasks to finish features and fix bugs. The testers are writing new tickets for the developers to fix as they find issues while playing. Everything is progressing well but there is a lot to do. As you know Madmole has been working on the perk system and designing what all the perks are going to do when purchased. Gazz is going behind him and hooking them up so that they will actually do what the descriptions state. faatal continues to work on pathing and vehicles. Prime is finishing quests and working on the user interface for things like vehicle inventory and other issues regarding the interface. Kinyajuu has been working on Area of Effect issues and buffs and random gen.
Changes made just the other day required all old saves to be deleted and a fresh start made. It's changes like that which prevent the game from being appropriate for general consumption.

Progress is happening all the time.

Just by checking SteamDB, I can see how much is happening everyday. TFP are really working hard to get things done.

 

[2l82run]

I'm not on twitter so I would not know about the post on twitter. and I'm talking about the blog. for people that don't have time to spend sitting on this forum all day reading for updates. it would be nice to update the blog. a one stop shop for people like me who work all day and just want a place to go look at quick for an update.

 

[The Gronk]

I'm not on twitter so I would not know about the post on twitter. and I'm talking about the blog. for people that don't have time to spend sitting on this forum all day reading for updates. it would be nice to update the blog. a one stop shop for people like me who work all day and just want a place to go look at quick for an update.

Have you seen the shiny new Dev Dev Diary?

All of the devs, none of the derps.

https://7daystodie.com/forums/showthread.php?87756-The-Official-A17-Developer-s-Diary-for-Developers

 

[Space4Ace]

About the new beer cooler,

It doesn't look right to me. What's all that condensation? A glass door cooler would look more like this:



You should be able to see pretty well through the glass door, unless it's damaged, maybe that's what you're going for here?

Also, the beer cooler shows so many different bottle types, yet we only get a few glass jars (beer, water, empty jars) in the game and that's about it. Maybe it's a teaser, you see all those sweet bottles on the front, and opening up the cooler you get none of that.

 

[2l82run]

Have you seen the shiny new Dev Dev Diary?
All of the devs, none of the derps.

https://7daystodie.com/forums/showthread.php?87756-The-Official-A17-Developer-s-Diary-for-Developers

yes, I have seen that and at one point I could go there and see the words "the first post updated "DATE" and I'm sure a lot of people were happy with just that at the least. Now I don't know if you were being sarcastic by saying shiny new. if it was sarcasm then that can be shoved somewhere the sun doesn't shine. if it was not sarcasm then my apalegys. I am a customer that enjoys playing the game and I enjoy knowing how the update is going. I am a game developer with unity5 and I know the very hard work that is put in. I'm not trying to be an ass here I'm just looking for info that's all. I'm not looking to be looked down a pawn for questions

 

[The Gronk]

That's all the info we have, stuff posted by devs gets put at the end of there.

 

[2l82run]

That's all the info we have, stuff posted by devs gets put at the end of there.

all I was trying to say at the start is why post in 50 different places. I use to go to the blog for updates but it's like the blog is dead for a month then alive again then dead for a month. not every one has time to read forum posts. i myself spend many hours coding for my game build with unity. i jump on the blog almost every day for a sec to hope for an update.

 

[Space4Ace]

all I was trying to say at the start is why post in 50 different places. I use to go to the blog for updates but it's like the blog is dead for a month then alive again then dead for a month. not every one has time to read forum posts. i myself spend many hours coding for my game build with unity. i jump on the blog almost every day for a sec to hope for an update.

The blog isn't updated much anymore. Madmole posts more on his twitter account ( https://twitter.com/joelhuenink ). All screen shots of his twitter posts are also posted here on the forum by Roland.

 

[Crater Creator]

Wrong - it's not a "pre-experimental" version and it also is not unfit for general consumption. It is the same version we as the general public get the following Monday. The only reason they get it first is for advertising. You are here in the forum often enough to know those facts so please stop with the dramatics.

No they won't. And it has never been stated anywhere that they will. So why are stating it like it is fact. The only true thing you posted was "won't be ready for general consumption. That is why the 'E' is there.
Streamers get A17E. There may or may not be a patch before the rest of us get it. It all depends on how it goes that weekend.

All right, I've reviewed what Roland has actually said and I see I've conflated it with what other users have said.

Again, a common misconception of the streamer event is that it is for finding bugs. It is not. ... The streamers are not testing. ... Bug fixing is just a side product if it even happens at all during the event.

As near as I can tell, Roland has been consistent on this, and I apologize for thinking otherwise. I do think certain claims made about the streamer event are illogical, but I'm willing to bite my tongue, at least until the board flares up about it again.

 

[Roland]

all I was trying to say at the start is why post in 50 different places. I use to go to the blog for updates but it's like the blog is dead for a month then alive again then dead for a month. not every one has time to read forum posts. i myself spend many hours coding for my game build with unity. i jump on the blog almost every day for a sec to hope for an update.

“The Blog” is Madmole’s blog. There are more developers than only Madmole. Madmole maintains his own blog as he sees fit and as was mentioned he seems to have shifted more towards twitter.

Here is where you will get posts from Madmole, Kinyajuu, Gazz, faatal, and Prime. faatal and Gazz are the most active lately but there are occasional updates by the others that never would appear on Madmole’s blog.

The reason you were told that the dev only diary was shiny and new is that about two weeks ago I created it with copies of only developer comments or updates by yours truly. It is literally the one stop place to see all updates that you were asking about. But it’s not the blog and never has been the blog for all developer commentary.

 

[2l82run]

“The Blog” is Madmole’s blog. There are more developers than only Madmole. Madmole maintains his own blog as he sees fit and as was mentioned he seems to have shifted more towards twitter.
Here is where you will get posts from Madmole, Kinyajuu, Gazz, faatal, and Prime. faatal and Gazz are the most active lately but there are occasional updates by the others that never would appear on Madmole’s blog.

The reason you were told that the dev only diary was shiny and new is that about two weeks ago I created it with copies of only developer comments or updates by yours truly. It is literally the one stop place to see all updates that you were asking about. But it’s not the blog and never has been the blog for all developer commentary.

thank you for clearing it up.