Melandreal
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Video - (showing no game deaths in your scoreboard) or it didn't happen
PC Dead is dead
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Royal Deluxe
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No video needed COD style works.Video - (showing no game deaths in your scoreboard) or it didn't happen
Its the ONLY playstyle without issues
All others have to few Skillpoints to skill Combat (at least until Lvl 60 i am now at day 22)
Snowydeath
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Wait, Is "Dead is Dead" actually an option in game? If so where?Playing dead-is-dead seems to have huge penalties in the current state of the game. Yes, I know this is Alpha and know its experimental, but I felt I needed to say something about this from a dead-is-dead gamer perspective.
I keep reading about people crying that the horde night is too easy... I see videos showing very easy 7 and 14 day hoards... but then they show their scoreboard and they have died multiple times!
I presume this is why their horde nights are so much easier?!
As I understand it, the game stage gets harder/higher if you don't die, as in a way the game 'wants you to die'.
But I don't understand the thinking behind this as even though the game is called "7 days to die" it is marketed as a survival game...
I play on normal settings, with no cheats on and if I die I start again. I have 820 hours in the game, all played this way, so I am not a nooby player, but I am really finding the horde nights difficult to get through without dying.
Please, devs, consider adding a bonus/buff/incentive to staying alive in this game. I know there is a temporary debuff to those who die, but dead-is-dead really needs some love too.
Penalising us by making the horde nights harder (as we don't die multiple times during normal gameplay) seems very unfair to me
Edit: on my 7 day horde I got irradiated zombie cops, irradiated spider zombies, etc etc etc!!!
Melandreal
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No, Its just a personal choice, the game played (usually) at normal settings, but if you die, its game over - you turn it off and start again from scratch at day 1.
It gives you a real sense of survival and a real sense of achievement.
I never felt that survival games should allow death and respawn.
'The Forest' had the death idea a little better (although I don't like the game as much) but it allowed you to "pass out" as your first death and the second death was game over. That worked for me, I kinda liked that idea.
But it seems to me if you die multiple times in 7 days to die, all your hordes are made easier for you - that kinda sucks
Royal Deluxe
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If you die delete your savegame
For multiplayer there is a A16 mod
Hryllingur
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And then you see my playstyle and cry because its not yours. And think its not right and bla bla bla ... and i make a video to show you, that i got it .. for nothing else. And do the work ... Why? I mean ... my word isn't enough for you? Okay ...Video - (showing no game deaths in your scoreboard) or it didn't happen
I hope, the pimps won't nerf the game. I'll stay with my opinion ... If its to hard, turn down the difficulty. THATS the reason for the option. Still too hard on easy with never running? Think about your playstyle.
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Snowydeath
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Oh ok, I usually do that anyway. Was just hoping the Mode was in A17 lol. Perhaps A18 or post A17 release!
Royal Deluxe
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i would love a modus you can make only 3 Savegames of your nude char at all. And you need to buy them
1: 1000 Coins
2: 10 000 Coins
3: 100 000 Coins
Death is death i like, but i like more to play with 3 fallback points.
Means i would backup my char at a clone machine at
lvl 30 or 50
arround 150
arround 250
1: 1000 Coins
2: 10 000 Coins
3: 100 000 Coins
Death is death i like, but i like more to play with 3 fallback points.
Means i would backup my char at a clone machine at
lvl 30 or 50
arround 150
arround 250
PinkLed5
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I'm on day 44 and have died more times in this game alone than I have the last 3 alpha's combined. However, I have yet to die on a horde night. Those dang PoI's keep getting me, especially during trader quests.Playing dead-is-dead seems to have huge penalties in the current state of the game. Yes, I know this is Alpha and know its experimental, but I felt I needed to say something about this from a dead-is-dead gamer perspective.
I keep reading about people crying that the horde night is too easy... I see videos showing very easy 7 and 14 day hoards... but then they show their scoreboard and they have died multiple times!
I presume this is why their horde nights are so much easier?!
As I understand it, the game stage gets harder/higher if you don't die, as in a way the game 'wants you to die'.
But I don't understand the thinking behind this as even though the game is called "7 days to die" it is marketed as a survival game...
I play on normal settings, with no cheats on and if I die I start again. I have 820 hours in the game, all played this way, so I am not a nooby player, but I am really finding the horde nights difficult to get through without dying.
Please, devs, consider adding a bonus/buff/incentive to staying alive in this game. I know there is a temporary debuff to those who die, but dead-is-dead really needs some love too.
Penalising us by making the horde nights harder (as we don't die multiple times during normal gameplay) seems very unfair to me
Edit: on my 7 day horde I got irradiated zombie cops, irradiated spider zombies, etc etc etc!!!
It's to help you survive, which you obviously weren't doing. I think 1 death right before horde night would suffice if one wanted to cheese it (irrc it's GS=days survived*level) btw. So maybe look at it as they want to continually make the game harder for you, but if they made it too hard they will give you a breather.But it seems to me if you die multiple times in 7 days to die, all your hordes are made easier for you - that kinda sucks
Not saying I like it this way either, but I at least try to understand their rationale for it. Maybe it is as they wish it, and maybe they're still trying to find the "just right" way too.
I bet everyone was excited about leveled-lists and all that and then Oblivion came out and it blew chunks. Some things sound great and then their execution leaves a lot to be desired.
Melandreal
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Yes, thats exactly my point. If you die you get easier hordes :/
If you don't die in your game, the hordes are much harder.
I like playing dead-is-dead and resent having to turn options down to easy when I have been playing this game in a dead-is-dead gamestyle for over 4 years
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Kosmic Kerman
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And here we get to the real complaint. A17 is harder. It should not be nerfed because of your ego.I like playing dead-is-dead and resent having to turn options down to easy when I have been playing this game in a dead-is-dead gamestyle for over 4 years
SnowDog1942
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I self impose dead is dead.. then I cry that the game is to hard. I am smart.
Melandreal
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LMAO its nothing to do with ego. In fact as a female gamer my ego is fairly small actually
I am not a COD style gamer with a huge ego, and I didn't buy this game 4 years ago to play it in a COD style, as that is not my thing and never has been. In fact I think its very sad if this game is going down that road
I am hoping for a possible buff or reward for staying alive, but at the very least I hope they reconsider having the gamestage artificially boosted by the lack of player death, causing BM hordes to become harder.
Either that, or I will have to resort to doing one death every 7 days just to get an easier BM horde - which to me defeats the object of the game being a survival game
I think the game should save every morning after horde night, Bringing you back to latest week at death. This way you are punished hard, but you can do things differently to avoid, or reach a gamestage that is INSANELY difficult and that you try every now and then..
What do you think ?
What do you think ?
Dead is dead is the only way to play. However, it is against our creed to complain about the game being too hard. Likewise, as you noted, we have no respect for those who believe in infinite lives and endless respawns, their opinions are meaningless and their skill is non-existent.
Snowydeath
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On horde night I just run around and pick them off... It's easy to do if you sink a few perks into cardio and sex rex! But I kinda understand, gamestage does need balance atm I'm pretty sure so with the next few weeks of experimental I bet it'll be a little less difficult for some people. (it's not easy but not too much of a challenge for me)
Ld-airgrafix
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Project zomboid is the only game worth playing when it comes to dead is dead, because when you do eventually die, its your fault. 7d2d you get a wolf pack silently enter the house inside a city full of buildings and zombies, but no, you are their target. Why? Because devs dont know how else to make this game hardcore.
Melandreal
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Sadly, I am not a big fan of editing the game. In the finished builds I will sometimes add mods eventually, but especially in experimental I prefer to keep it vanilla.
I will just keep my fingers crossed that the devs will give some love to the dead-is-dead gameplay style eventually. Its a step in the right direction that they added the debuff to death for those who die multiple times in their games. But its a shame they made hordes harder for the dead-is-dead gamers.
I have yet to see it confirmed by a dev that our self imposed dead-is-dead gameplay style ups the gamestage higher than an 'infinite lives' player, but I certainly suspect it does from what I have seen and read.