PC Deactivate digging down?

Yes, pretty nice argument... considering you only quoted part of my message. My main point is precisely that he asks for:

And then says he just want base underground without zombi diggers, which is the contrary of that.
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You made a definitive statement that I disagreed with. We have different views on what is an achievement, or am I wrong again? I reacted to what you called a non achievement.

 
You made a definitive statement that I disagreed with. We have different views on what is an achievement, or am I wrong again? I reacted to what you called a non achievement.
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He didnt say an achivement. He said "long-term goal is to achieve somewhere safe". That doesnt sound like bnuilding the pyramids for the sake of it like you talk about.

 
I never liked living underground tbh. If people want to avoid blood moon it's still quite simple. Use a bicycle (minibike or motorbike as well), hide on a roof of a large POI, if you're on a server just don't log in, if in multiplayer just die and sit at the spawn screen, turn zombies to walk only in XMLs, ect. ect. Though I accept that digging zombies take away 1 option to avoid blood moon. I'm OK with them because digging zombies wouldn't affect my playstyle either way because I've always felt that living underground is boring, but I do understand why some would want them removed. Also, as for mining, it's still easy imo but I have died to a digging horde that got in my mine lol.

EDIT: misread the post I was replying to so I edited to fit the topic correctly

 
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i don't understand why people get so het up about things like this. OP asked for an OPTION to be added. Good Lord. I would like the option to turn off digging as well. I understand the devs having the prerogative to create whatever they like, but at the same time-have an interest in satisfying customers and keeping them coming back. If i want to play a shooter i have dying light and destiny. i come here to explore, be a little creative, get that feeling of satisfaction from progression AND be able to do what i want.

However dumb it might seem to everyone-one of the things i enjoy in this game is checking out the player made prefabs. Many of them are literally works of art. Once i'm able to do it-i'll pick one i think is amazing and "restore"/"fortify" it. i started that the other night and they dug through a very carefully crafted water tunnel/lake someone had made. In some of them i'm sure that could cause a collapse. And fixing water isn't so easy to do(This was day 2. So not "hiding out" on horde night)

So i just want it able to be turned off to keep from having cool things destroyed. I don't see any reason why we can't deal with z's where we choose to and i don't see why wanting a choice is grounds for so much salt

 
i don't understand why people get so het up about things like this. OP asked for an OPTION to be added. Good Lord. I would like the option to turn off digging as well. I understand the devs having the prerogative to create whatever they like, but at the same time-have an interest in satisfying customers and keeping them coming back. If i want to play a shooter i have dying light and destiny. i come here to explore, be a little creative, get that feeling of satisfaction from progression AND be able to do what i want.
However dumb it might seem to everyone-one of the things i enjoy in this game is checking out the player made prefabs. Many of them are literally works of art. Once i'm able to do it-i'll pick one i think is amazing and "restore"/"fortify" it. i started that the other night and they dug through a very carefully crafted water tunnel/lake someone had made. In some of them i'm sure that could cause a collapse. And fixing water isn't so easy to do(This was day 2. So not "hiding out" on horde night)

So i just want it able to be turned off to keep from having cool things destroyed. I don't see any reason why we can't deal with z's where we choose to and i don't see why wanting a choice is grounds for so much salt
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I agree with you, there's an option to make zombies always walk for heaven's sake. I would NEVER put that option on because to me it would be as boring as watching paint dry. But if some want to play that way, I sincerely hope they enjoy it. Just because it's not for me doesn't mean it shouldn't be an option atleast lol. Why would I care how someone else plays?

 
Oh so I get to ride a bike or minibike, or to log off and wait all and every horde night... I mean, thanks for the suggestions (they are boring and actually pretty close to cheating for real even if they are not game breaking), I see you are really trying, but the new build killed a big option and made it unnessessarily hard to do something I really enjoyed.
Remember - they changed the game from NOT digging to DIGGING. The change already happened! I'm not asking them to change anything, I'm asking them to keep things as they are (Edit: Correction: As they 'were') (in some respects), so it's actually the other way around and you made the point for me. They actually *spent time* building the digging feature INTO the game, which is why they didn't fix other pressing issues with the game, according to your, and my logic - because we agree. But we don't agree because you intended it, but because you made a shoddy argument.

"Don't ask the devs to change the game up to suit your play style." Why not? And why can you say that? You are here arguing for your play style, and I'm arguing for mine. Why does your playstyle count and mine doesn't - all of a sudden?

But your pressing issues thing takes the price. "Taking time away from other more pressing issues"? Come on?! WTF. After 8 years of EA, version-content-back-and-forth, engine switching, reinventing the wheel, flipping features on, off and on again, they all of a sudden don't have the time for a dig option that's on or off? That is rediculous! You really need to work on your argumentation if you want to come away looking better than this.
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I'm guessing you haven't been playing the game for very long and I apologize for assuming you have. Zombies used to be able to dig down. That was the norm for a long time. They weren't near as good as they are currently but this was one of those features that was turned off and back on again after some work was done to it. The devs always intended for zombies to be able to dig to hunt down survivors that were trying to escape them. Who knows, maybe this will be one of the features they turn off again and work on more before they turn it back on. They may decide they want to go back to the grid crafting system like they used to have as well.

How is avoiding the horde by running away considered more of a cheat than wanting to deactivate parts of the game you don't like in order to just hide underground? That logic seems a little bit skewed to me.

I personally couldn't care one bit if you wanted to build an underground city and live like a dwarf. By all means go right ahead. Like you've said, we have our different play styles. The difference is I'm not asking the devs to change up the game to suit mine. I'm applying my play style the best I can to what the devs have given me to work with. Personally I would love to have at least 25x the amount of zombies available. I want them to remove guns and the ability to be able to craft the vast majority of things in the game that you can. Being able to make a 4x4 from scratch but not being able to repair already build cars is ludicrous. But I don't want them to change up the game in order to appeal to my whims. This is their game and I'm just blessed with the opportunity to play it.

Out of the two of us you are the one that is asking the devs to change the game to fit their play style. I'm not asking them to do a single thing. All I'm asking is for people that are upset with the changes to maybe look at other methods of handling the problem besides quiting the game. Keep playing how you like but learn to deal with this new set of challenges the devs have given you.

 
What is with people and not adding mods if they don't like the Vanilla settings? this has always been done for games yet all of a sudden we have these self important entitled gamers that think everything has to be done to serve their playstyle by the devs. Just add mods to the single player world or ask the persob in charge of the server you play on for mods to be put into the server to disable or add in crap you want or don't want. Why is it so difficult for people to do this? Or if the answer is I don't know how to mod or want to mod then turn off the zombies or change game to the easiest possible settings with lowest blood moon count possible or better yet go into Debug mode and skip day blood moon days.

 
Yes, pretty nice argument... considering you only quoted part of my message. My main point is precisely that he asks for:

And then says he just want base underground without zombi diggers, which is the contrary of that.
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I would say that "my long-term goal is to achieve somewhere safe" and "underground without zombi(e) diggers" is not contrary. That sounds safe, which is his goal and not contrary to what he posted.

 
What is with people and not adding mods if they don't like the Vanilla settings? this has always been done for games yet all of a sudden we have these self important entitled gamers that think everything has to be done to serve their playstyle by the devs. Just add mods to the single player world or ask the persob in charge of the server you play on for mods to be put into the server to disable or add in crap you want or don't want. Why is it so difficult for people to do this? Or if the answer is I don't know how to mod or want to mod then turn off the zombies or change game to the easiest possible settings with lowest blood moon count possible or better yet go into Debug mode and skip day blood moon days.
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This entire post assumes that the changes being asked for can be easily modded. Do you know for a fact that digging Zs can be turned off by xml edit?

 
What does modding have to do with renting a server?
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I personally want them. My group doesn´t. We don´t have a server as we all have good internet. I am not gonna rent a server just because there is no slider for this. And everyones solution for this is mods. Like always.

 
I personally want them. My group doesn´t. We don´t have a server as we all have good internet. I am not gonna rent a server just because there is no slider for this. And everyones solution for this is mods. Like always.
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I think something is getting lost in this discord? Do you think you need to rent a server to mod the game?

 
Well. I try to explain again:

I want them in my SP games, even when i think they are a cheapass lazy solution and would prefer something else. My group doesn´t want them in our MP games. So what to do? Either rent a server just because we can´t have a simple slider or mod and don´t have them in my SP.

We are fine without server so far, and i don´t see why i should spend money when this can be solved very simply by adding a slider in the menu.

And don´t even start with "but it´s not that expensive"

 
Well. I try to explain again:
I want them in my SP games, even when i think they are a cheapass lazy solution and would prefer something else. My group doesn´t want them in our MP games. So what to do? Either rent a server just because we can´t have a simple slider or mod and don´t have them in my SP.

We are fine without server so far, and i don´t see why i should spend money when this can be solved very simply by adding a slider in the menu.

And don´t even start with "but it´s not that expensive"
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You can copy the game folder to another location and play your SP game from there with all the mods you want.

 
Well. I try to explain again:
I want them in my SP games, even when i think they are a cheapass lazy solution and would prefer something else. My group doesn´t want them in our MP games. So what to do? Either rent a server just because we can´t have a simple slider or mod and don´t have them in my SP.

We are fine without server so far, and i don´t see why i should spend money when this can be solved very simply by adding a slider in the menu.

And don´t even start with "but it´s not that expensive"
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Well maybe im missing somthing but cant someone else in your group host the unmodded game?

I find what you have said pretty confusing to be honest: your 'friends' dont want mods on MP, but also dont want the zombies to dig? At the min those two things are mutaly exclusive, dont understand why you would need to rent a server (or how that would fix whatever your problem actually is)

As far as the topic goes: tottaly in support of getting options for tweaking zombie ai in the game menu (as well as a bunch of other options).

I think a big part of the reason people are unwilling to modify thier game is that the game is unfinished and so has no actual mod interface (being able to toggle mods on and off from within the client is basic as ♥♥♥♥ functionality, not sure why its missing).

 
Greetings,
I made a thread on Steam for the above and it would seem that I'm not alone in asking for the OPTION to turn this mechanic off, please.

It is a game breaker for me and after 703 hours of enjoying it, now I don't even want to play.

The gist of the request and thread is that some of us enjoy building. You've made it so that the zombies tear through the strongest materials with ease (which is very odd) so it would seem even more necessary to build underground. You've given them the insane ability to dig down, however. In a survival game, my long-term goal is to achieve somewhere safe. There will always be danger, I'll always be interacting with the world and its challenges at some point but my drive is towards somewhere safe. In many post-apocalyptic tales, humans have been driven underground for survival. It isn't far-fetched.

So, please consider adding to the menu options to allow this. It is supposed to be a sandbox game, after all. :)

Cheers.
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I'm ok with this option as long as it forces a server into the modded column for doing so.

 
I've said over and over these things should be options in the game play...

Hopefully there will be an Alpha release that is an Appeal to the Masses release. Giving players more options in how the game plays and the world behaves.

 
Thanks for all the responses to my posts. Kalarro (I think?) I still didn't quite get what you were saying, but it's ok. I yield. I give up. It's pointless.

What am I even doing here...

 
i don't understand why people get so het up about things like this. OP asked for an OPTION to be added. Good Lord. I would like the option to turn off digging as well. I understand the devs having the prerogative to create whatever they like, but at the same time-have an interest in satisfying customers and keeping them coming back. If i want to play a shooter i have dying light and destiny. i come here to explore, be a little creative, get that feeling of satisfaction from progression AND be able to do what i want.
However dumb it might seem to everyone-one of the things i enjoy in this game is checking out the player made prefabs. Many of them are literally works of art. Once i'm able to do it-i'll pick one i think is amazing and "restore"/"fortify" it. i started that the other night and they dug through a very carefully crafted water tunnel/lake someone had made. In some of them i'm sure that could cause a collapse. And fixing water isn't so easy to do(This was day 2. So not "hiding out" on horde night)

So i just want it able to be turned off to keep from having cool things destroyed. I don't see any reason why we can't deal with z's where we choose to and i don't see why wanting a choice is grounds for so much salt
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Should be variable based coding - then we could have this:

https://ibb.co/5Bs8Q64

The devs vision would then be a default button

 
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