PC Anyone else notice the zombies in A21 are real pushy?

Feycat

Feycat

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I mean that literally. Spouse is playing the heavy armor/punchy style and I'm in military armor and a spear, poking zombies or shooting from behind him. This has been our playstyle division for many alphas now. But in A21 the zombies seem to push/clip into him. He's been pushed into walls (like we've had to destroy several cement blocks to free him,) through floors and up into the air when low-reaching zombies push him up and get behind him. This seems new to us, has anyone else noticed this?

 
Feycat said:
...I don't even know if that's a joke lol
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Considering the source, I'd say it's a joke ;)

So I haven't noticed the zeds doing this, but I have noticed getting stuck in blocks in general, which I don't really remember happening to me prior to A21. It seems easily reproduceable if you open a door into yourself and are standing in the wrong spot, but I have gotten stuck in other places. I mean I try to play an honest game for the most part but I always have cheats enabled to deal with the inevitable bugs in this game.

 
I just got shoved off a counter and onto another Z's head while we were clearing Two Bit so yeah. First time it's happened to me but between my spear and gun I don't usually let them get that close!

Krougal said:
Considering the source, I'd say it's a joke ;)
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This is what happens when a dev team and the players are equally memed, it would not *surprise* me if someone named a pushy zed AI "Karen"

 
After the zombie gets hit, it starts an animation of movement towards the player, as if making a lunge in his direction, thereby pushing him through the texture in some cases. Just a bad decision.

 
Feycat said:
I just got shoved off a counter and onto another Z's head while we were clearing Two Bit so yeah. First time it's happened to me but between my spear and gun I don't usually let them get that close!

This is what happens when a dev team and the players are equally memed, it would not *surprise* me if someone named a pushy zed AI "Karen"
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Oh, no, I meant Maharin in particular. Found this old gem of a reply today:

BFT2020 said:
Nobody has to summon you.  We just need to leave opportunities for you to come in and give us another bad pun  😉
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My big issue in A21 is how sometimes, for no apparent reason, a zombie will get on all-fours and come at you at super-speed. Had a lumberjack I knocked down. He got up to all fours and moved REALLY fast at me. Even hit me because he was so fast. Then he stood up again.

 
The_Great_Sephiroth said:
My big issue in A21 is how sometimes, for no apparent reason, a zombie will get on all-fours and come at you at super-speed. Had a lumberjack I knocked down. He got up to all fours and moved REALLY fast at me. Even hit me because he was so fast. Then he stood up again.
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Yeah, absolutely hate that.

Since Feycat posted this, I have been more aware of it, and the pushing is noticeable when you are looking for it.

 
The_Great_Sephiroth said:
My big issue in A21 is how sometimes, for no apparent reason, a zombie will get on all-fours and come at you at super-speed. Had a lumberjack I knocked down. He got up to all fours and moved REALLY fast at me. Even hit me because he was so fast. Then he stood up again.
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I kinda like this, makes the game less predictable. I always thought the crawlers should drag their body's faster

 
Maharin said:
If half a body was running on its arms toward you in real life... how would you react?
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@%$# my pants 👖

I'm talking like the deadspace leapers when they run at you,

imagine being in a building a it's about to turn night and you see Mr crawler drag himself then at 22:00 BOOM he starts scuttling and trys his best to eat your ankles 

Plus it would look cool seeing his organs jiggle when he runs at you *giggity*

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The_Great_Sephiroth said:
My big issue in A21 is how sometimes, for no apparent reason, a zombie will get on all-fours and come at you at super-speed. Had a lumberjack I knocked down. He got up to all fours and moved REALLY fast at me. Even hit me because he was so fast. Then he stood up again.
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This isn't new to A21. The crawling mechanic was added in A20 and has been the bane of many players' existence ever since.

While I like the mechanic in general, the execution of it leaves something to be desired. IMO, their crawling speed should be reduced slightly and there needs to be a more deliberate animation between standing and crawling and vice versa. This "pop goes the weasel" behavior is really annoying.

 
Syphon583 said:
This isn't new to A21. The crawling mechanic was added in A20 and has been the bane of many players' existence ever since.

While I like the mechanic in general, the execution of it leaves something to be desired. IMO, their crawling speed should be reduced slightly and there needs to be a more deliberate animation between standing and crawling and vice versa. This "pop goes the weasel" behavior is really annoying.
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The big problem with this is the hit boxes. I'd be much more ok with the sudden crawl if their hit boxes didn't go so wonky.

 
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