Anyone else getting no bm hordes on Alpha 17 b240?

IgnyteZero

IgnyteZero

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Running dedicated server, and we've started up two different seeds and played the first week. At day 7 no horde. Tried everything, but can't seem to get one to spawn as it should. Anyone else experiencing this issue or got any tips on how to solve it without wiping and starting up yet another RWG seed?

 
our server is on a16.4 and we've had 3 bloodmoons without hordes.. its soo weird
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My concern isn't 16.4 but the latest alpha 17 build b240. We have had no real issue with previous alpha 17 builds except once when a BM horde didn't appear on day 28. But afaik I know that's might be an old bug, probably the same messing with your 16.4 game. I get worried when there is no dog horde to foreshadow the first BM as usual, and the BM horde itself also is absent. On two different occasions/hostings (is that even a word?).

Running a listents command shows no new entities having spawned after a BM. Made some time resets to "st 7 21 30" just to double and triple check. No BM horde spawns.

 
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Your Allocs server fixes mods are messed up. Aside from that, I don't see anything other than the BM definitely NOT happening.

Will have to test.

 
Your Allocs server fixes mods are messed up. Aside from that, I don't see anything other than the BM definitely NOT happening.
Will have to test.
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Messed up how? I've just done the usual job of throwing it into the Mods folder... might be an old version though of Allocs... So maybe I just need to update that?

But yeah, that shouldn't interfere with the BM I guess. Thanks for looking into it.

 
My concern isn't 16.4 but the latest alpha 17 build b240. We have had no real issue with previous alpha 17 builds except once when a BM horde didn't appear on day 28. But afaik I know that's might be an old bug, probably the same messing with your 16.4 game. I get worried when there is no dog horde to foreshadow the first BM as usual, and the BM horde itself also is absent. On two different occasions/hostings (is that even a word?).
Running a listents command shows no new entities having spawned after a BM. Made some time resets to "st 7 21 30" just to double and triple check. No BM horde spawns.
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i've had the same issue in both recent a17 and a16 games and servers. we recently switched back to a16 due to this bug and did a complete server wipe. could be allocs, and that would be a shame because having a live map is sweet. we also have another similar issue in that hordes are spawning accross the map (non-hordnights) in places players have not explored and staying there, even after all players have logged. itslclogging up the server ram and eating up the max zombie count at times. only thing thats the same between our 17 server builds and our recent switch back to 16 is allocs. so it may be the cause.

 
i've had the same issue in both recent a17 and a16 games and servers. we recently switched back to a16 due to this bug and did a complete server wipe. could be allocs, and that would be a shame because having a live map is sweet. we also have another similar issue in that hordes are spawning accross the map (non-hordnights) in places players have not explored and staying there, even after all players have logged. itslclogging up the server ram and eating up the max zombie count at times. only thing thats the same between our 17 server builds and our recent switch back to 16 is allocs. so it may be the cause.
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Interesting. Maybe it is allocs. I should try remove it then and see if there's any difference. Because thinking about it, I haven't seen any hordes at all, not even wandering ones.

 
Interesting. Maybe it is allocs. I should try remove it then and see if there's any difference. Because thinking about it, I haven't seen any hordes at all, not even wandering ones.
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I've had massive hordes spawn inside bases (even on custom imported prefabs with sleeper spawns turned off) where bags and landclaims are active and they are not supposed to spawn. on both 17 and 16 since 17 came out. and this has been an issue both with allocs and without.

 
I've had massive hordes spawn inside bases (even on custom imported prefabs with sleeper spawns turned off) where bags and landclaims are active and they are not supposed to spawn. on both 17 and 16 since 17 came out. and this has been an issue both with allocs and without.
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Haven't had that issue. Bags and claims seems to work as intended.

 
Just pondering, considering we're discussing bedrolls and landclaim blocks, could it be that those could interfere with how a bm horde is spawned or how it targets an area for spawning?

The only real major change or difference (except the extended share xp range) in our server settings are those for claim blocks and bedrolls. We've exaggerated the area they both cover quite a bit, as we're just playing co-op anyway and wants to make sure a POI we decide to claim (or base we build) stays 100% zombie free, even if it's a really large POI.

 
Ok. I completely removed the Mods folder (only had allocs in it anyway). I also lowered bedroll safezone to 32 (default is 24) and put land claim safe zone down from 81 to 41 (which is default).

I then for the hundredth time (slight exaggeration, maybe only sixth or so), typed in 'st 7 21 50' in the server panel and... lo and behold, a BM horde.

Now, it might have been alloc's, it might have been the bedroll/claim size. Going to do another test by adding back the latest official iteration of allocs and see if it still works. If it does it might be land claim block issue.

 
Reinstalled Allocs. Tried again. Works, getting a BM horde.

So my guess is the landclaim block safe range messing things up with how and where the horde spawns.

 
Will have to test.
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Having tested myself and found the solution to the problem I must ask if this is a known issue to TFP?

Should I bug report this?

I mean, having played around now with the settings I found that not only does a too large land claim safe zone block bm horde spawning, it seems to block screamer spawning too. So it feels like they need to make exceptions for those two vs land claim blocks.

 
one small problem, we've had the problem when no bedrolls or land claims were on the server. or when we specially traveled to a place picked out to battle the horde half a day or more before the hordenight.

 
one small problem, we've had the problem when no bedrolls or land claims were on the server. or when we specially traveled to a place picked out to battle the horde half a day or more before the hordenight.
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Might be a completely different issue conflicting for you then. Because I can 100% confirm it's the bedrolls and landclaim blocks creating the issue for us.

Will have to test.
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Did you ever test?

 
Might be a completely different issue conflicting for you then. Because I can 100% confirm it's the bedrolls and landclaim blocks creating the issue for us.


Did you ever test?
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yes. Have not been able to replicate the issue with getting no BM's. I know it occured quite often in a16 when more than 12 or 13 people were on a server at once. Can't get it to happen in a17 yet on my servers.

 
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