PC Alpha 21 Dev Diary

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My hope is that TFP will get bandits working but won't tell anybody to make them a surprise in A21. There will be some epic moments for sure when players suddenly die from a bandits bullet, totally confused.💀

 
As long as bandits aren't Quake 3 skilled then all is right in the world.

I hated the AI in Quake 3 ugh, 15ms response times, it was ridiculous, oh man I used to rage about it.

You didn't dare stick a nose hair around a corner or they would blow it off.

 
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eventhorizon said:
The "Learn by looting" mechanic sounds awfully familiar...

Oh, yeah, because this did it first.

https://7daystodiemods.com/darkness-falls-mod/
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This has been stated several times now. You aren't shocking anyone.

Khaine, himself, weighed in and gave his feedback based on his experience developing this aspect of his mod. I'm super interested to see if TFP ultimately follows in his footsteps even further or if their version of it will avoid the pitfalls Khaine ran into or if they will come up with some different solution if one is needed. At any rate, we are all pretty well informed around here but maybe you can get some gasps and sputters on Facebook or reddit.... ;)

 
Roland said:
This has been stated several times now. You aren't shocking anyone.

Khaine, himself, weighed in and gave his feedback based on his experience developing this aspect of his mod. I'm super interested to see if TFP ultimately follows in his footsteps even further or if their version of it will avoid the pitfalls Khaine ran into or if they will come up with some different solution if one is needed. At any rate, we are all pretty well informed around here but maybe you can get some gasps and sputters on Facebook or reddit.... ;)
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Looks like it was his 1st post on the forums, go easy on the guy...😅

Joking aside, I'm sure we will get a round of "modders" thought of that first at some point with the usual host of snarky comments.

Some of those guys don't realize that TFP has accommodated many of the methods modders are using today and continue to listen and add things so they can continue to expand their mods.

Without the support from TFPs, many of those mods wouldn't exist lol...

 
Laz Man said:
Looks like it was his 1st post on the forums, go easy on the guy...😅

Joking aside, I'm sure we will get a round of "modders" thought of that first at some point with the usual host of snarky comments.

Some of those guys don't realize that TFP has accommodated many of the methods modders are using today and continue to listen and add things so they can continue to expand their mods.

Without the support from TFPs, many of those mods wouldn't exist lol...
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Well, it wasn't a good first post. Lol. 

And from what I've seen, DF's system isn't all that different than what vanilla used to have. LBD, loot only books/schems, etc. I haven't actually played DF myself though, so I could be wrong and I'm certainly not taking anything away from Khaine's mod. I think he did make it so you could eventually get everything through perks/skills though, so you didn't find yourself in those situations where you were at end game times but never had find the minibike book, for example. But I was one of the ones that liked that part of rng as it could completely change that game. It seems most people always felt they should always find everything in every game though. 

Point being if you wanna start the whole "Simpson's did it!!!1!1!!" nonsense then the game will lose the vast majority of its content. Lol. 

 
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eventhorizon said:
The "Learn by looting" mechanic sounds awfully familiar...

Oh, yeah, because this did it first.

https://7daystodiemods.com/darkness-falls-mod/
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Not the same thing...

A21 will have 'Learn by Looting' (you find items to increase your crafting skill in loot, not just schematics that allow you to craft items).

Darkness Falls has 'Learn by Doing' (if you use a club your club skill increases).

Learn by Doing was part of vanilla 7D2D but caused issues with servers.

Players used to craft, then scrap, hundreds of items to increase crafting skill or by leave their character running against a wall while AFK to increase Athletics skill, etc.

 
Blake_ said:
@faatal, what are you wear.... working on at the moment?
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@faatal: sorry! Roland's "spoiler" was so generic, that I couldn't resist pulling that joke!  :pound:  Remembers me of one time I went to eat into an Italian cafeteria, and on display, among other foods, there was this one label "Miscellaneous"... that's how Roland's post sounded. He called for that, he left it too much open to... interpretation, lol

 
I'm not a gambling man- but if I were, I'd take that secret $5 in my shoe and bet that bandits will be confirmed at TwitchCon.
.. Thankfully, I'm not, so I'm keeping my $5 either way.

 
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