PC Alpha 21 Dev Diary

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zztong said:
I don't think that's the whole story, or even the correct story. Yes, there is truth to "practice makes perfect" and "necessity is the mother in invention." But they're not the only sources of the information, techniques, and ideas that lead to improvement. People learn much more quickly as part of a community where they trade information, techniques, and ideas. Magazines and books would be really valuable in allowing our survivors to learn more quickly than just starting with medieval blacksmithy and reinventing centuries worth of wheels.

And Trade Schools do not involve extensive repetitive manufacture. They have lots of topics to cover. That said, a career machinist has lots of tricks of the trade that separate them from the fresh graduate. LBD certainly was part of that machinist's education to date.

But I don't think this is supposed to be a perfect simulation of education, but a game instead. To me, the best argument for mixing in some LBD beside the LBL approach is (1) the magazine points offer a decent enough system for accounting for an accumulation of knowledge, and (2) some LBD tasks would both give the player some agency and break up any monotony associated with collecting magazines alone.
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to be honest : i would agree about that 5 years ago but after change 7DTD into Mad Max it's not such simple. looks like in this universe most thing go rusted for some reasons. 

So... such knowledge would be totaly useless. AWs-36 and SWT-38 story is good example : in short - Soviets wanted to make automatic rifle but barrels were not enough durability because of steel. Because there exist many variants of steel. And here similiar story - so informations from handbooks about modern weapons are totaly useless when you have medieval like tools. So you have to improves and check : this work this not , such pipes can be usefull this not etc. And... looks like this world is again similiar about community etc. you know - Mad Max mentality. So what you saying would have sense in Days gone or Metro yet here we have strange mix of fallout and Mad Max xd

LBD was good because there everything was useful - you swim ? increase perks, cook? again. you jump? again. So whatever you were doing it was useful. Now? not too much.

 
Guppycur said:
Why not both?  Keep the magazines, let the spam crafters spam; hell add the ability to buy training from a trader.  
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I doubt that would be a good system to offer it multiple ways like that.  It would just be messy.

Buying training (LBL) is something I mentioned as an option that could be added, however.  But it would need to have very limited use and not add a way to level things already leveled through other means because money is extremely easy to amass.

 
Krougal said:
One huge gripe I have though, WTAF were y'all thinking with the entitygroups.xml ???

I can't figure out how to properly xpath what I want to do and went the brute force method of copying the entire file and modding it directly (which I hate to do) and even trying to do simple find/replace was serious effort. Like I'd have written a py script if I knew how much trouble it was going to be. I just wanted to remove a few mobs from hordes and tweak the vulture spawns, but the "simplified" file is a disaster to work with, not to mention how many  #!@*&% horde group gamestages do we really need?
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Go to the mods section, specifically tutorials & guides, go to the Xpath modding explanation thread, and go to page 28.  Spereii does an excellent job explaining the new entitygroups structure.

 
Dreyseth said:
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Trader Joel is struggling to pay the bills; he always comes up a little short.
Secret Stash may be gone, but Trader Joel will do special deals under the table.
Trader Joel apears to be ahead, compared to the other traders.
Trader Joel is very wise; he tries to see things from different perspectives.
Trader Joel is a prominent advocate for Learn By Praying.
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He's probably reaching for his shotgun considering you walked up with a knife in your hand...🤔

 
Riamus said:
I doubt that would be a good system to offer it multiple ways like that.  It would just be messy.

Buying training (LBL) is something I mentioned as an option that could be added, however.  But it would need to have very limited use and not add a way to level things already leveled through other means because money is extremely easy to amass.
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I have a vehicle trader for a vehicle mod I use that "rents" a workbench in his shop for a limited time when you purchase a rental agreement; since it's a necessary workbench in the autoshop it becomes very useful until you can make your own.  Point is, there are cool things you can do if you try hard enough.

It's all on how they do things.  Messy was a16 and the learn steel by spamming stone axes.  It doesn't have to be that way.

@Adam the Waster 😉

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should be fixed since b12





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  • No airdrops in A21.1 b6




nothing known about b15, as you're the first one to bring up such a build

 
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meilodasreh said:
should be fixed since b12





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Fixed
  • No airdrops in A21.1 b6




nothing known about b15, as you're the first one to bring up such a build
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It appears b15 is the same as b14 (same patch notes anyway), I did eventually get an airdrop but at 19:00 which is odd. Maybe they've randomised the timing?

 
Doomofman said:
I did eventually get an airdrop but at 19:00 which is odd. Maybe they've randomised the timing?
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Not sure, at least I can't find any more about airdrops in the patch notes besides the "fixed an issue with..." 🤔

But as you say it, I should have got an airdrop by now, and I can't remember having heard the plane...well was clearing higashi tower, so I might just have missed it, because it was during one of those "why is there this strangely calm passage with all these exhaust vent walls?-situations"😄

 
Recibo la gota de agua sin problemas en la versión b15, es cierto que en la versión anterior no la recibí

 
meilodasreh said:
Not sure, at least I can't find any more about airdrops in the patch notes besides the "fixed an issue with..." 🤔

But as you say it, I should have got an airdrop by now, and I can't remember having heard the plane...well was clearing higashi tower, so I might just have missed it, because it was during one of those "why is there this strangely calm passage with all these exhaust vent walls?-situations"😄
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So what happened for me the first time playing b15 (with an old save) was still no airdrop first time I hit 12:00 but then got an airdrop at 19:00 that day and then back to the normal 12:00 daily airdrops after that

 
Good day TFP's

Question ... I keep getting this warning message when checking "F1" for issues and it just started after starting to build a base .. at first I thought it might have something to Do with old POI that I was using ... But have removed all containers.

Just wondering if it is a bug, as a yellow alert no biggie. Just wondering🤔

Thank You and have a Great week. The OldGamer 😌

New copy posted on 8/09/23

 
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