Uncle Al
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The probability graph for 'not coming out this year' drops off a cliff on January the 1st, though.
PC Alpha 21 Dev Diary
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I don't think it would be sensible for TFP to distribute all buff perks into the trees. Flurry of Blows was a nice perk but not the uberperk nobody could do without like Sexrex (IMO). If this is really it, I'd rate that as disappointing though naturally it has to be seen in context of all changes to the perk tree
Looking at the riddle It could also be that the perk is moved somewhere else, but again I don't see that making sense as AGI would need an equal substitute. Especially moving it to strength as substitute for sexrex would not make any sense.
My idea (knowing about the "moon" childrens book) is that flurry of blows is changed to only work on blood moon but is made a lot stronger. This would correct the balance problem that AGI is a good attribute under the week but a "handicap" in blood moon because all points in stealth are useless.
Is there another name for santa clause that could work for the first picture?
Looking at the riddle It could also be that the perk is moved somewhere else, but again I don't see that making sense as AGI would need an equal substitute. Especially moving it to strength as substitute for sexrex would not make any sense.
My idea (knowing about the "moon" childrens book) is that flurry of blows is changed to only work on blood moon but is made a lot stronger. This would correct the balance problem that AGI is a good attribute under the week but a "handicap" in blood moon because all points in stealth are useless.
Is there another name for santa clause that could work for the first picture?
RipClaw
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He is also called Kris Kringle.
EDIT: The image is from a book titled "The Illustrated Treasure of Classic Children Stories." This picture was used to illustrate the poem "The Night before Christmas".
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lord_ahriman
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I think a general skill tree would be a better option than spread it over all skill trees. This way Flurry of Blows and Sex Rex for example would be overall much more effective and friendly.
That being said, I believe TFP is aiming into a more specialization route. Is it bad? Not at all, but I'm afraid new or casual players will stay away from A21.
That being said, I believe TFP is aiming into a more specialization route. Is it bad? Not at all, but I'm afraid new or casual players will stay away from A21.
Callum123456789
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I'd agree I still miss the misc crafting tree way back when for the secondary perks It was cool and would be nice to see a few perks not tied to any attributes imo.
Gamida
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Was thinking same thing on first part of pic. It shows in bottom right the "But I heard him exclaim, ere he drove out of sight -"
The other pic covers the last two lines, "Merry Christmas to all and to all a goodnight"
The Minus happy face to me seems to subtract the merry and the minus christmas tree pic seems to me to subtract the Christmas...
So should be "and to all a goodnight."
Haven't gotten the two pics below those.
Maybe the goodnight from the pic means it changes goodnight in line to whatever the other skilltree pic is???
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Doomofman
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Yeah I'm pretty sure it reads "Flurry of blows to all skill trees" The bottom part is telling you to change the Goodnight part to Skill trees
The workings:
- Flurry of blows from the nonogram
- As Gamida pointed out, the 'to all' part comes from subtracting Merry (smiley face) and Christmas (tree) from "Merry Christmas to all and to all a goodnight"
- Then 'skill trees' comes from changing the 'to all a goodnight' part (the book on the bottom left is Goodnight Moon) to 'Skill Trees' as the image shows on the bottom right
Could that mean that flurry of blows only works at night? (EDIT: Okay, as we have a very good explanation for the riddle, I drop that as a theory)
Another theory would be that they cope with the recipe removal by removing ONE perk from every perk tree as creating enough sensible substitutes for all the recipe perks would be a task they don't have time for. So Strength gets sexrex removed and distributed, agi Flurry of blows.
Int would lose one of the recipe perks, I would put my money on the vehicle perk. In perception there are a few perks that come to mind, maybe the lockpicking perk that is useless as long as strength has multiple better ways to open safes, though I doubt that. There are other ways to fix this. And in fortitude the obvious choice would be LotL, though that perk is working well without recipes already. So I would put my money on the hunter perk as the better choice to go and be incorporated into the perception hunter perk.
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Blake_
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@faatal, I invoke thee. Lately, I've seen an experimental version being tossed around internally. Does that mean that content lock has finally been achieved for all teams?
I already asked for a divorce, dumped my lovers and quitted my job and twelve illegal gigs for this alpha. The moment you fire the starting shot I sell my house and buy a top Pc and a garage. Everything is designed already: toilet gaming chair, robotic arm nacho feeder, NASA-grade toilet water recycler, and several other trinkets from a 8L beberage headset to an electronic system that forces you into the minimum 21 minutes of sleep a day that you need to maintain basic bodily functions (who needs cognitive functions to play, 'amirite'?)
I already asked for a divorce, dumped my lovers and quitted my job and twelve illegal gigs for this alpha. The moment you fire the starting shot I sell my house and buy a top Pc and a garage. Everything is designed already: toilet gaming chair, robotic arm nacho feeder, NASA-grade toilet water recycler, and several other trinkets from a 8L beberage headset to an electronic system that forces you into the minimum 21 minutes of sleep a day that you need to maintain basic bodily functions (who needs cognitive functions to play, 'amirite'?)
mstdv inc
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A few thoughts about the character development system
The problem is not even that the character development system is not like that, but that players always strive to play in the most effective way, thereby ignoring all other branches of development.Everything will remain the same if the new system still has one most effective way to develop as quickly as possible.It will be possible to solve this in the same way as with crafting.Make a consistent character development system in which you will not be able to buy the most "delicious" benefits until a certain moment.And this is a very controversial decision.On the one hand we will lose in freedom of choice, on the other hand we will not ignore whole chunks of the game, considering them less effective.
If there is a system of specializations, which is more likely, given the presented concepts of armor and its purpose, then we will retain freedom of choice, but most likely everyone will still choose the most effective specializations.
Specializations are more useful in a co-op game or on servers in a group.For solo play, consistent character development will be better.Without splitting the game into solo/co-op and servers, we will not get the best gaming experience for everyone, alas.Unfortunately, solo players will have to put up with the concept of specializations and the impossibility of becoming a terminator who can do everything for one survival.
We can conclude that the best system is the one that exists now, but no.I conducted a small survey (just over a hundred people) and most of them play for less than 30 game days (60 minutes/day), because they develop as quickly as possible and then "they get bored."
It's very strange for me, to be honest.I wouldn't play at all if my main goal was to develop as quickly as possible and finish survival, then immediately start a new one.
The problem is not even that the character development system is not like that, but that players always strive to play in the most effective way, thereby ignoring all other branches of development.Everything will remain the same if the new system still has one most effective way to develop as quickly as possible.It will be possible to solve this in the same way as with crafting.Make a consistent character development system in which you will not be able to buy the most "delicious" benefits until a certain moment.And this is a very controversial decision.On the one hand we will lose in freedom of choice, on the other hand we will not ignore whole chunks of the game, considering them less effective.
If there is a system of specializations, which is more likely, given the presented concepts of armor and its purpose, then we will retain freedom of choice, but most likely everyone will still choose the most effective specializations.
Specializations are more useful in a co-op game or on servers in a group.For solo play, consistent character development will be better.Without splitting the game into solo/co-op and servers, we will not get the best gaming experience for everyone, alas.Unfortunately, solo players will have to put up with the concept of specializations and the impossibility of becoming a terminator who can do everything for one survival.
We can conclude that the best system is the one that exists now, but no.I conducted a small survey (just over a hundred people) and most of them play for less than 30 game days (60 minutes/day), because they develop as quickly as possible and then "they get bored."
It's very strange for me, to be honest.I wouldn't play at all if my main goal was to develop as quickly as possible and finish survival, then immediately start a new one.
We urgently need a sedative truck while hypetrain is getting ready to leave
You can get the bonus damage from stealth on horde night if you create a path where the Zs need to face away from you to path to you. Also, Run and Gun and Gunslinger would like to have a word.
This is true for players who want to play the game only once. Specialization has a bonus for replayability (for players who actually use the specialization). Sure, you made a survey and a majority does ignore it. Means the game is made for the minority of that group.
The game does not always have to be tuned to the biggest group of players, otherwise this game would be a battle royal PvP game.
Without splitting the game into solo/co-op and servers, we will not get the best gaming experience for everyone, alas.Unfortunately, solo players will have to put up with the concept of specializations and the impossibility of becoming a terminator who can do everything for one survival.
We can conclude that the best system is the one that exists now, but no.I conducted a small survey (just over a hundred people) and most of them play for less than 30 game days (60 minutes/day), because they develop as quickly as possible and then "they get bored."
It's very strange for me, to be honest.I wouldn't play at all if my main goal was to develop as quickly as possible and finish survival, then immediately start a new one.
We urgently need a sedative truck while hypetrain is getting ready to leave
Undocumented feature or bug? I knew there were occasions where stealth worked but my observational powers are 1/sherlock and I never realized it might be their facing away that does it.
Run and Gun is a very good counter-argument. So agi already has a special mode of combat that is suitable for horde-night (and useful at other times as well)
Gunslinger though is just the normal weapon perk and is (when not used with Run and Gun in a run-and-gun style) a lot weaker than other guns except for INT. But I assume you listed it because a run-and-gunner depends on this perk as well, right?
Neither. The same behavior occurs when they're awakened in a poi and target a location. On horde night they're also just targeting your location until they actually see you.
One that's critical to any build that wants to fight the horde on foot but is also useful for anyone that doesn't want to aim down sights. For example, it's quite nice to be able to use a sniper rifle in the same way that you use a shotgun.
Well, yes and no. I included it assuming that we were talking about a straight agility build, but in combination with Run and Gun the pistols are anything but weak since their weakness is quicker accuracy drop off at range and need for more frequent reloads.
I also assumed the standard standing in one spot behind a barrier horde night style rather than the run and gun style or I'd've added Parkour for obvious reasons.
meilodasreh
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meanwhile, me and the guys still trying to understand what the heck's a nonogram supposed to be.
https://youtu.be/PYOSKYWg-5E?t=123
https://youtu.be/PYOSKYWg-5E?t=123
NekoPawtato
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It's kind of like minesweeper in that each row/column tells you how many consecutive "mines" there are, but rather than have them scattered about randomly, the end result is a picture
I learned how to play back in middle school and I've always been a fan of them
Roland
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Thanks. They are already named, have their own icons, and are fully operational. We will see how close your names end up being to the actual ones.
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I've been getting a 522 error from CloudFlare all day when I try to go to 7daystodie.com form multiple devices. I thought this meant that TFP quietly dropped Experimental and crashed the forums... but I see the forums are still operating if I link directly to community.7daystodie.com. Is the website being updated in anticipation of the big new Alpha?
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