PC Alpha 20 Dev Diary
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There's already a way to stop the Zs from digging, turn off horde nights.
Roaming Zs won't dig unless they detect you and it's easy to dig deep enough that you're not detectable even with feral sense on at high game stage. You really have to be within a few meters from the surface and making noise to get them to dig.
Horde night Zs can spawn on the inside of POIs, and if there is 30m of poi above you or below you they can spawn inside the same POI that you think is safe.
Yes, there are ways that the player can build bases to completely avoid the horde night Zs, but it's pointless because you can already turn horde nights off.
The player already has a choice.
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Beelzebubs Ghost
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I'm done with the topic and; judging by your absolute failure to recognise my point, to repeat my argument, and my points on the same kind of fallacious thinking which I have already dealt with - would be futile.
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Roland
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What is amazing to me is that in at least half a dozen different threads you have had people tell you that your theory that zombies dig down to you on a regular basis is false and that if you were to actually dig a bunker deep underground you would be perfectly safe on all nights except one. And for that one night you could have an above ground horde base to fight them if you don't want them digging down to you or you can turn off horde-nights.
I really don't understand your anger over the non-issue of zombies digging down to your base. If you put in the time and effort to go as deep as you can you get what you want. There are existing options available to you in order to not have horde night zombies dig down to you. You are guilty of ignoring evidence given by actual experience from players who have dug deep bases and have assured you that you are safe.
The option that you want which is a toggle to disable zombie digging sounds like it isn't going to happen since @faatal basically said it isn't an option that would be good for the game in other instances besides zombies digging down to deep bases on horde night.
Beelzebubs Ghost
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I told you I'm done with this topic, and even if I weren't I most certainly wouldn't get into a discussion after that blatant falsehood.
Carry on, sir.
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Laz Man
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#DiggingGate again? I thought we were past that already. Personally, I'd rather faatal spend his time on bandit AI, getting water to work and maybe rafts working instead.
Maybe the devs will be more open to more options after all of the core features are finished.
Maybe the devs will be more open to more options after all of the core features are finished.
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bdubyah
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This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Gimme the cool stuff. Don't waste time on things that don't matter. And speaking of rafts, any plans on expanding water POIs? Things like docks and things around lakes and rivers would be cool. Although, the current RWG rivers are a bit...cookie cutter. Hopefully bigger, better stamps will be coming for those.
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pregnable
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Hmmm, it seems like the devs and most other people do not care about the blocks I was talking about. I thought more people would see a problem with them. Noice.
I am going to take that as, they see no problem with them, and that I am okay to abuse them any way I can think of.
Great update guys. I am enjoying it.
Oh, before I forget, is anyone else getting the zombies glitching into the ground issue?
It is not a huge deal, but it happened in my friends multiplayer world as well, so it is probably not just me.
I am going to take that as, they see no problem with them, and that I am okay to abuse them any way I can think of.
Great update guys. I am enjoying it.
Oh, before I forget, is anyone else getting the zombies glitching into the ground issue?
It is not a huge deal, but it happened in my friends multiplayer world as well, so it is probably not just me.
meilodasreh
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Yes it happens sometimes when I combat them in close quarters with my sledge.
I seem to literally punch them into the ground.
Once I had a construction worker guy slammed through a closed door with just the head and stuck there dead, which was really funny and even felt somewhat intended.
I wanted to make a screenshot to post it here, but when I had destroyed the blocks next to the door to get the perspective right, he disappeared/was unloaded, sadly.
Might be something that's hard to avoid with these exaggerated ragdoll effects that send them flying.
But I really like it that way, so I don't see it as an issue, but as a funny feature.
Nothing to fix there
Aldranon
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Bandits for sure!
Rafts can be for another game unless yet another AFK construct is in high demand.
Bandits will be what is needed to make late game interesting IMO. Sure one can RP that they are surviving for a hundred days waiting for rescue and are fighting from getting too bored and making a fatal mistake (only works with "Dead-is-Dead" for me anyway).
After Day 100, I figure my guy has moved on or is rescued by an airship and they travel to New York where 7D2D part 2 will start.
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pregnable
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Nothing to fix there
Oh, well mine do it sometimes on horde night... or uh, night.... anyway... they are still alive and crawling around in the ground, inside the floor tiles voxels.
I usually just have to try and hit them when the hitbox raises up out of the ground. Kinda annoying, but also not a huge issue.
SnowDog1942
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As if there was huge difference between hiding underground unreachable at night with hordes turned on as compared to hiding underground unreachable at night with hordes turned off.
Lord Morphleyes
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Yes it happens sometimes when I combat them in close quarters with my sledge.
I seem to literally punch them into the ground.
Once I had a construction worker guy slammed through a closed door with just the head and stuck there dead, which was really funny and even felt somewhat intended.
I wanted to make a screenshot to post it here, but when I had destroyed the blocks next to the door to get the perspective right, he disappeared/was unloaded, sadly.
Might be something that's hard to avoid with these exaggerated ragdoll effects that send them flying.
But I really like it that way, so I don't see it as an issue, but as a funny feature.
Nothing to fix there
Yeah I thought it was working as intended since it is the coolest thing I seen on horde night in awhile.
Laz Man
Fun Pimps Staff
I think they spawn at night even on day 1, since A19 or maybe earlier.
You also get nastier biome spawns in the commercial and downtown districts.
Morloc
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Why would there be a "frontier bacon" recipe in a pre-apocalypse kitchen cupboard?
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Lord Morphleyes
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Maybe for the same reason I have a venison Jerky recipie in my book shelfWhy would there be a "frontier bacon" recipe in a pre-apocalypse kitchen cupboard?
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JCrook1028
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Morloc
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Nope. Not buying it. That doesn't explain how to go from dead pig to 3 lbs. of pork belly, which is what's really in question.
Exceptions also don't make the rule. There'd be no reasonable expectation of a written/printed "recipe" explaining butchering, carving, smoking, cooking bacon in a home. When I say nobody would have this...sure, there's that one guy; Statistical Anomaly.
I do however completely understand "game balance is balance".
...but it's fun to poke fun at it nonetheless.
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