PC Alpha 20 Dev Diary

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danielspoa said:
technically you are not wrong 😐

I dont remember the usual time gap between the announcement and the streamer weekend actually happening, like.. 2 weeks?
the announcement of the exact date I mean

*before someone asks, they didnt announce a date yet. Im just curious as for how long I can be sure its not happening 😁
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From the looks of the A19 thread on here it was announced literally the day before so on the Thursday of that week. I assume the streamers knew in advance of that though

 
Well, streamers are gamers, too, but adult-ish.

It's okay to tell them in advance as far as possible. =P

 
Gazz said:
Well, streamers are gamers, too, but adult-ish.

It's okay to tell them in advance as far as possible. =P
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Streamers are reason why YT fall- damn i miss times when only you could find gameplays and longplays - no stupid commentary "jokes" etc

meganoth said:
Lets talks about this. You post a few arguments why the discussion above should not continue and I will bring up totally sound arguments against that. I'm sure we can get a string of posts going at least as long as the one above.
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Honestly this discussion was better that usually 5 pages about change few stats in logs

 
khzmusik said:
That's about half of the number of MF bugs that were around last week, and that's very good news. Considering most bugs take at least developer day to complete in most companies, that's very quick work.

I would be happy if we got A20 as an XMas gift, but the signs point to it being released long before then. Noice!
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And you have to consider how many people those bugs are distributed across. Those 14 are across 9 devs with no one having more that 3. 1 is mine and it is not even a bug, but wanting some AI behavior improvements. I do have several other non-MF bugs I want to look at before exp, like sky on clients not syncing to current weather sometimes.

 
JCrook1028 said:
Funny then how the number of players keeps growing.
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That's because of global language support and updates that equal reset each time

We can learn from the number of continuous online players after the update that if the server supports more players, the sustainability will be higher, and if the number of players supported by the server is small, death will be accelerated.

When a large open world is formed, it will attract more players who do not belong to this field to join. This is due to human psychology. As usual, most people's opinions are often correct. Obeying the majority is generally good.

The factors affecting herding behavior are mainly as follows
Group factors: large group size, strong cohesion, consistency of group opinions, etc., all tend to make individuals have herd behavior.

Many online games in our country are not fun, but there are many players. This is the psychological effect. More evolution is not determined by a line, but more by others.

Sorry, when it comes to psychology, we have deviated from the main discussion!

 
Strange question but... UMA is going to be cutted right? but a lot of modders using it so my question is: are we get "alternative' tool similiar too UMA?

 
faatal said:
And you have to consider how many people those bugs are distributed across. Those 14 are across 9 devs with no one having more that 3. 1 is mine and it is not even a bug, but wanting some AI behavior improvements. I do have several other non-MF bugs I want to look at before exp, like sky on clients not syncing to current weather sometimes.
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No biggie. Everybody is on edge due to the Hype train, but it's pretty obvious that you guys are busting your butt off fixing bugs, even on weekends. And I'm pretty sure very few of those bugs are "funny" to look at and/or fix. Tedious grinding against sneaky issues. I hope you get to do some fun features soon enough. It's always Christmas when the Lead Programmer unveils a new feature. Raft a nice week !

 
Matt115 said:
Strange question but... UMA is going to be cutted right? but a lot of modders using it so my question is: are we get "alternative' tool similiar too UMA?
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We already do; we can attach prefabs to bones.  The only thing that's hard to do now is add *player* clothing. 

...the biggest advantage of UMA at the moment is using game assets, thus making the mods server side.  That will be going away, BUT, in the long term it won't matter.

My two cents.

 
Guppycur said:
We already do; we can attach prefabs to bones.  The only thing that's hard to do now is add *player* clothing. 

...the biggest advantage of UMA at the moment is using game assets, thus making the mods server side.  That will be going away, BUT, in the long term it won't matter.

My two cents.
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I think it will matter a lot- well (except mod importing and using models from diffrent games ) perhaps every mod adding new types of zombies is using UMA  

 
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Matt115 said:
I think it will matter a lot- well (except mod importing and using models from diffrent games ) perhaps every mod adding new types of zombies is using UMA  
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No, server side only mods that add "new zombies" are using uma to do it; a far cry from every mod.

Client mods that do it are actually adding new entities; new models and animations... and I dare say more additional zombies are added this way than the Uma way, which actually just adds pieces of vanilla meshes to vanilla zombies.

At any rate, my statement still stands, we can add pieces to existing zombies without UMA already using the attach prefab ability, so the only real changes when we lose UMA are losing server side only "new" zombies which will be made moot later in development, and we will then have ADDED the ability to more easily change the player models.  Something right now, is very very difficult to do.  So difficult no one does it much. 

 
Guppycur said:
No, server side only mods that add "new zombies" are using uma to do it; a far cry from every mod.

Client mods that do it are actually adding new entities; new models and animations... and I dare say more additional zombies are added this way than the Uma way, which actually just adds pieces of vanilla meshes to vanilla zombies.

At any rate, my statement still stands, we can add pieces to existing zombies without UMA already using the attach prefab ability, so the only real changes when we lose UMA are losing server side only "new" zombies which will be made moot later in development, and we will then have ADDED the ability to more easily change the player models.  Something right now, is very very difficult to do.  So difficult no one does it much. 
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Well i hope you are right because "new zombie types" type of mod is most important for me

 
Matt115 said:
Well i hope you are right because "new zombie types" type of mod is most important for me
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Grab the creature pack and enjoy ...

A20 ideas have been flowing, as well; xyth (main creature guy) has had "jiggle tech" for a while now.  And no, I'm not saying the pimps stole his idea, calm down people, I'm merely pointing out that jiggle tech isn't a new concept for some modders. 

Are these client side mods?  Yes.  Will that matter later on in development?  No.  Not very likely. 

Bottom line is that uma going away isn't a huge deal imo.  Also, even though the players won't be uma and the support for uma is going away, I doubt the functionality of it is going to be removed to the point where modders can't still abuse it. 

 
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