PC Alpha 20 Dev Diary

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Jost Amman said:
I wasn't talking about that... maybe read again the post I replied to.

Unless they added a "different" particle board for each material type.

Example: if you have concrete blocks in your hand, you select the shape, then place the "concrete particle board" and the upgrade it to concrete.

Maybe I'm just dreaming, but if it's like that it would be great!  :cool2:
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Dreaming. If you want to build with concrete without upgrading to it you craft the blocks and place them choosing the shape before you place. If you make a mistake you will be breaking it apart because it can't be picked up. You only get that security by doing the upgrade route starting with wood.

 
rescue86k said:
I appreciate the info on the time frame to complete bandits. I don't feel strongly about it. I felt that the new features would be bandits and water overhaul and I saw both couped into 21. At the time it sounded like bandits could be sneaked into 20 if it was delayed a bit.
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No worries. Bandits and water were not features that almost made it in. They have a lot of work needed. :)

 
Swiftpaw said:
Is the Vulkan API running well in A20?  It was already running quite well in A19 but had some rare glitches.

Can't wait to get back into modding.  So excited for A20!  Hope it gets polished and released before Halloween as suggested!
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A20 is on a newer version of Unity, so Vulkan may be better (or same, or worse).

 
As far as the statement that was made about picking up the corners or the 1000 of odd shapes. If you don't want to upgrade each step and don't want to go through 1000s of shapes to find that odd one you placed down. Simply put the concrete block in hand and look at the odd frame block and do the copy block before picking the frame up. I think I said this right.

 
Roland said:
No worries. Bandits and water were not features that almost made it in. They have a lot of work needed. :)
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Roland said:
Dreaming. If you want to build with concrete without upgrading to it you craft the blocks and place them choosing the shape before you place. If you make a mistake you will be breaking it apart because it can't be picked up. You only get that security by doing the upgrade route starting with wood.
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I see Madmole didn't have time to play test A20 and give feedback... otherwise we would have a much more sleek system now.

Nothing against the QA guys, mind you, but MM has his own Fun Pimp perspective that others lack IMO.  :ohwell:

 
Jost Amman said:
I see Madmole didn't have time to play test A20 and give feedback... otherwise we would have a much more sleek system now.

Nothing against the QA guys, mind you, but MM has his own Fun Pimp perspective that others lack IMO.  :ohwell:
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<head tucked down> catches local train to the Bermuda Islands <dont have to stay here to get the brush off... i can go back home>

:)

 
Roland said:
 I answered this somewhere else but it bears repeating. There are only wood frames (particle board) left in the game as far as frames that can be placed and picked up. They upgrade to wood for 10 wood which upgrades to cobblestone for 10 cobblestone which upgrades to Concrete for 10 Concrete Mix which upgrades to Steel for 10 Steel.

There are no frames in the game that go directly to steel or concrete or cobblestone. You can craft those blocks and place them using the shape menu or you upgrade to them paying the cost of each resource as you go through the path. If you want to plan using particle board then you place it where you want and then pick it up to replace it with your concrete block but there is no rebar any longer just as cobblestone frames and junk metal frames are no longer.

wood frames(particle board) -> Wood -> Cobblestone -> Concrete -> Steel

That is the whole path and with a nail gun it would be 3 clicks and cost you 10 wood, 10 cobblestone rocks, and 10 concrete mix. There is no need to differentiate what you have in your inventory because you never have to choose this or that mat. It just follows the path.
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I see, thank you. :)

I'm curious if concrete mix will become more expensive as a result of only costing half of it what it does now to upgrade a block to concrete.

Do you know if zombies still have that damage multiplier against wood in A20? I believe that's a thing in current versions of the game.

 
@Devs

We know that you have managed to significantly reduce the generation time of large worlds.

But, did you manage to reduce the amount of memory occupied when using this world during the game?

 
@KinyajuuWill we be able to generate a map with a destroyed city and wasteland biome in the center of the map with the other biomes and towns surrounding it? In other words I'd love to play a map with classic 7DTD hub city wasteland.

 
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not sure if it has been asked before but will the blue tarp that gives you cobblestone rocks ever give more than 35? It doesn't seem to matter how high you are in mother load either still gives the same 35 cobble.

 
When 35 cobblestones are loaded onto a pallet it doesn’t matter how skilled you are at removing them. You’re only going to get 35. 😎

 
It was brought up probably several times before. When doin quest, will we get the option once we reach the next Tier like T3 will we be able to go back and do T1? If so will it be in A20?

Reason I personally feel it is important. Sometimes when brought up about a poi a response is do quest and reset them. The problem is once you get to T5 you can't do lower ones to get them to reset.

So it would be nice when I log on but find that the towns have been raided that I could do a few quest that are not only just massive buildings to reset and do a few lower and medium tier houses/buildings to reset and do.

If this has been answered sorry. 

 
crazywildfire said:
It was brought up probably several times before. When doin quest, will we get the option once we reach the next Tier like T3 will we be able to go back and do T1? If so will it be in A20?

Reason I personally feel it is important. Sometimes when brought up about a poi a response is do quest and reset them. The problem is once you get to T5 you can't do lower ones to get them to reset.

So it would be nice when I log on but find that the towns have been raided that I could do a few quest that are not only just massive buildings to reset and do a few lower and medium tier houses/buildings to reset and do.

If this has been answered sorry. 
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Far as I know, in A20, youll be able to select any tier and pick a quest from it. so long as that tier is unlocked.

 
Tonight's dev stream featuring level designers (including ex-modders Laz Man and Hernan) was pretty cool but low on actual news. Here's what I gathered, though there was a lot of tidbits here and there.

  • 1201 shapes at the moment
  • SHIFT R opens the shape menu
  • "Frames" are now solid; you still pick them up but they are no longer see-through frames that get upgraded into solid blocks
  • The POI editor has 20 quick slots
  • There's a spiral staircase (and players can craft it)
  • Bigg Buns is not a bakery
  • There's no more wet concrete
  • Loot was revamped (no details)
  • Hitboxes have been fixed for the most part (so if you see it you should be able to shoot it)
And here's one thing that will interest most people, I believe: a fly over all the (current) shapes: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1149993808?t=01h07m08s

 
dcsobral said:
Tonight's dev stream featuring level designers (including ex-modders Laz Man and Hernan) was pretty cool but low on actual news. Here's what I gathered, though there was a lot of tidbits here and there.

  • 1201 shapes at the moment
  • SHIFT R opens the shape menu
  • "Frames" are now solid; you still pick them up but they are no longer see-through frames that get upgraded into solid blocks
  • The POI editor has 20 quick slots
  • There's a spiral staircase (and players can craft it)
  • Bigg Buns is not a bakery
  • There's no more wet concrete
  • Loot was revamped (no details)
  • Hitboxes have been fixed for the most part (so if you see it you should be able to shoot it)
And here's one thing that will interest most people, I believe: a fly over all the (current) shapes: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1149993808?t=01h07m08s
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also finally corner iron bars are a thing....yahoo

 
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