Callum123456789
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the new city tiles thing looks like it will massively improve rwg which is awesome
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Fanatical_Meat
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unlikely for any update.
basically too many in place systems need to be changed however I could be thinking of DLSS or whatever.
I suspect adding a feature like that may cause unintended consequences and at this point they really need to focus on wrapping this thing up.
Ignoring performance impacts could an entire world 4/8/12/16k be generated with the tile system as in the entire world is one big City?
Callum123456789
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it depends on what pois are generated because certain pois take up a lot of your performance whilst you ar ein that area and if you have a massive city with lots of huge buildings id think that would most likely tank your pc and give you like 30 fps or lower
zztong
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Q: If we use A19.6's Prefab Editor to make a 150x150 POI, would we be able to bring that into a future A20-Experimental and convert it into a Tile?
(Assuming we also pay attention to the blocks that will be available in A20.)
Q: If so, could you tell us the width of roads/sidewalks and their relative placement along the sides on the Tile?
(I can try to spot/count it via the video, I guess, but I'd probably run afoul of "tricks of the eye." Is a city street 27 blocks ... 7 sidewalk/6 lane/1 divider/6 lane/7 sidewalk? Hmm, smaller sidewalks in the later Tiles. Maybe a street is 15 blocks? An odd number when the Tile is 150x150? Maybe 16 or 14 blocks? Hehe.)
(Assuming we also pay attention to the blocks that will be available in A20.)
Q: If so, could you tell us the width of roads/sidewalks and their relative placement along the sides on the Tile?
(I can try to spot/count it via the video, I guess, but I'd probably run afoul of "tricks of the eye." Is a city street 27 blocks ... 7 sidewalk/6 lane/1 divider/6 lane/7 sidewalk? Hmm, smaller sidewalks in the later Tiles. Maybe a street is 15 blocks? An odd number when the Tile is 150x150? Maybe 16 or 14 blocks? Hehe.)
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dcsobral
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1. How do intercity roads connect to tiles? I see no special tiles for it.1. Yes, each district has a set of tiles in Prefabs/RWGTiles/, they can be overwritten or simply add a number to the end and you can have any number of variants. They can be any height (meaning you can add sewers and other things underground) and must be 150x150 in size.
2. Yes, there are 4 way intersection, 3 way intersection, striaght, corner, and dead end type tiles.
3. Yes, we have several tiles where the streets veer off and dead end, alleyways, etc. within the tile. only the edges have to match up
4. We are just calling them POI spawn markers as we also have something called Part spawn markers.
5. All town/city district tiles use an exact size, the rural edges of a town will take anything that can fit in the space (down to the next POI marker size). I will be adding an option to allow the same on the district tiles via the rwg mixer.
6. Yes, Extra Small = 25x25, Small = 42x42, Medium = 60x60, Large = 100x100
7. They can be directly next to each other as the POI will always fit in the dimensions
8. They are all at the same level, doing multi height tech will be a large undertaking and not something we'll be doing for a20 for certain.
9. Yes, parcels are 2d, no height requirement as we had no need for that with the current system
10. It's better to leave out anything that isn't part of a real world lot, sidewalk from the house to the edge is fine, but you wouldn't want to put a frontage on there (at least on residential) I've seen some downtowns with front sidewalks that blended well with the downtown tiles.
11. Yes, zoning is associated with the tile. The definition of a tile to be a zone type is in it's name.
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12. Yes they will, we have city, town, country town, and another I'll leave as a surprise.
13. Nothing was planned as of yet as this tech is still new. We'll be fleshing it out after initial release as per usual.
2. Are all streets connected? Like, a straight tile will always have tiles with connecting streets on each end (or intercity road), and so forth for every tile?
Give the new shape system I wouldn't put too much effort on creating anything on alpha 19. This might be a good time for some Shape System dev to tell us how the conversion from alpha 19 goes...
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Kinyajuu
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1. I leave a couple of the outer tiles with road exits with no tile beside them and then connect the highway to that for now. Later I'm hoping to do some kind of highway off ramp tile to make it look more natural.
2. With the exception of the above, yes, all roads will connect to other tiles.
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MechanicalLens
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So pausing the A20 City Tile Tech video at 30 seconds in and looking towards the top right of the district... I see what could be the sewer system. 
jorbascrumps
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So pausing the A20 City Tile Tech video at 30 seconds in and looking towards the top right of the district... I see what could be the sewer system.
Underground structures were confirmed:
Matt115
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well serwers could mean we can exepect drowned zombies someday! omg i finaly feels better! skeletons , newsstands and drowned zombie ( i hate water, i have hydrophobia but i love drowned zombie what the hell?) and i will send you guys photos frome havens!
PS. Did there is new corpses model on basketball court? omg so good i love corpses!
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zztong
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Update: Nevermind. I can clearly see a 42x42 next to a 25x25 filling from Tile edge to City Road.
150 - 2 x ( 42 + 25 ) = 16, so each half of the road/sidewalk is 8. Cars are 2, which by comparison seems to fit.
Thus, allow 8 blocks in the center of each side for a road, or allow 16 for a road and sidewalk on each side.
faatal
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I've been using 2020.3.14 for weeks and appears fine. Once builds gets tested using it, if it works well, then that will probably be A20's version.
Raytracing, DLSS, etc has to be supported by the render pipeline not just Unity in general. Those are HDRP features. We use the built in pipeline, which does not and may never support them. We have no plans to update 7dtd to HDRP, since it will take a lot of time. We hope to use HDRP on one of our next games.
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faatal
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A2020.3.14? So how many centuries are we supposed to work on this game???*Fingers crossed this will happen someday*
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wolfbain5
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1. Have any new spawn groups been added to the prefab editor? like all female or all male? I know this also falls under modding, but since the editor is part of the game package it should also fall into a20 category.
it feels like some of the spawn group types are lacking. I mean the all female group would be great for the his/her bathroom spawns. the strip club, etc. a group for nurses and lab techs for hospitals and such. and yes although these can be modded, they are also easy additions that would make logical sense in certain prefabs. just as we have a workman group for joe builders and a military group for military poi's.
2. are the drop note quests getting an update to include the new zombie types? as it stands the party girl, lab tech missing from lady killer, as an example.
it feels like some of the spawn group types are lacking. I mean the all female group would be great for the his/her bathroom spawns. the strip club, etc. a group for nurses and lab techs for hospitals and such. and yes although these can be modded, they are also easy additions that would make logical sense in certain prefabs. just as we have a workman group for joe builders and a military group for military poi's.
2. are the drop note quests getting an update to include the new zombie types? as it stands the party girl, lab tech missing from lady killer, as an example.
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Jost Amman
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