PC Alpha 20 Dev Diary

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I've been working on weather manager cleanup and now starting on the simulation, so hopefully less gloomy days.

 
Hey team, I appear again! At present, I brought you a few questions, most players. , of course, this is after I summarize, actually is main or to delete is not necessary to ask questions (for example, player to brush the 50 zombies, said computer is very card).

The third episode of the 1 - A20 video when hair? Or release probably determine the time?

2 - can in A20, restore a zombie will climb a wall of spider come back?

3 - beamon behemoth has a plan to return? Too many players said: in the late game, almost every week is repeated. Wants to see a team of 5 levels of task to add a similar construction in the existence of the super BOSS! But it (he? Her?) Will not leave the task structure.
 

 
Faatal

I have a few questions relating to one subject.

Since TFP has access to all of their archived\older versions Do you
or any of the team ever go to them for any inspiration or do you start
from scratch with each iteration\alpha?

Will or is it possible to do a similar configuration, regarding the weather,
as it was in alpha 15. I am referring to the altitude temperature manager.
Example: Lower altitudes had a hotter climate, as you went higher the temperature
declined. Imagery: Wasteland, if painted to the lowest altitude has the most brutal
heat, then burnt forest, desert, Pine forest, snow in the mountains.

If a single day\night lighting gradient is used for all then it would have less abrupt
visual lighting changes as you move between biomes. The only difference would be the
atmospheric effects, Fog, clouds, LUT, Particle emission.
Gradient ref: sun,moon,fog,fog fade etc. For me its like an atmospheric LUT adjustment.

Biome distribution was also more 3d. It would go along x,y, and z.

With the manager that you are working on, if the above reference is applied could the manager
also be applied to a singular governor for the atmospheric effects? I mean not only the temperature
but as you change altitude, then say you have the existing particle storms, but they would
progressively decline, as you approach the median height, and progress as you approach the
extreme upper and lower distances. Imagery: Pine forest is middle of the height and has ChunkMargin 20,
as you descend\ascend the chunk margin decreases creating a smoother transition visually.

Is the prior code used, Copyright protected or TFP intellectual property, as TFP team mates
change?

 
faatal said:
I've been working on weather manager cleanup and now starting on the simulation, so hopefully less gloomy days.
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Multiquestion attack !

1.Can you clarify ?

2.What does that mean for weather survival ?

3.What is the intended result/end goal of the weather system ? like : Weather-specific Zombies? Streamlined weather survival/heat-cold management ? or is it just "To look better than before" for now ?

 
I want to know what he means by "less gloomy days". Is he taking away from the weather system? As of right now I can't remember when last I experienced rain or dense fog and I play at least 4 days a week for at least 2 to 4 hours a day. This current weather system is making me think of going back to my ps4 7 days to die where I experience really dense fog for days making me really think about what I'm doing. It adds the extra element that we are no longer getting on this pc version. And boy talk about the night, it's so bright I could see for miles even with my brightness turned all the way down, I hate it. Can TFPs please rethink the scare factor in this game. Simply limiting the players vision will make this game's experience 100 % better.

 
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@faatal Christmas wish for A20... stealth would be MUCH more valuable if firing a gun would always have a chance to summon a horde (like the screamer).  :cool2:

 
faatal said:
I've been working on weather manager cleanup and now starting on the simulation, so hopefully less gloomy days.
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I don't suppose this will include support for seasonal weather (e.g. "winter" drops the world temp by 20 degrees)?

...Probably not, but doesn't hurt to ask.

 
x3eemguy said:
I want to know what he means by "less gloomy days".
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There was an issue where once it started raining it would get stuck on raining for weeks of in-game time. "Less gloomy days" means that issue is fixed and rainy days will come and go randomly and no one weather pattern will get stuck day after day.

 
Jost Amman said:
@faatal Christmas wish for A20... stealth would be MUCH more valuable if firing a gun would always have a chance to summon a horde (like the screamer).  :cool2:
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Currently it does, but by the sounds "heat" rating. But it does it at a contant rate... Meaning 1 shot fired = to 2 added to your "heat" level

if they added a random heat chance thing that adds a larger burst of "heat" at once, that would trigger a horde or screamer depending if your "heat" is already near 100%

say like 10/200/30 in the sound xml or somthing

The number 10 being the min number of shots needed to trigger the "heat" event,

The number 200 being the max number of shots to trigger the "heat" event

And the number 30 being how much "heat" it addes to that area 

The scalability of this would be great, and a stealth perk could be created, tho on the coding end if this i got no clue. 

Also they could just do somthing like this 

3/12 

3 being the min amount of "heat" generated per shot

12 being the max amount of "heat" per shot

This would be alot eazer IMO, and the a stealth perk can just directly affect how high your min and max is

And i dont see this happaning at all considering they never brought back "smell" for a LONG time and because TFP want to get this game done with, im sure everyone can tell by this point

None the less well see what happens in A20

 
x3eemguy said:
I want to know what he means by "less gloomy days". Is he taking away from the weather system? As of right now I can't remember when last I experienced rain or dense fog and I play at least 4 days a week for at least 2 to 4 hours a day. This current weather system is making me think of going back to my ps4 7 days to die where I experience really dense fog for days making me really think about what I'm doing. It adds the extra element that we are no longer getting on this pc version. And boy talk about the night, it's so bright I could see for miles even with my brightness turned all the way down, I hate it. Can TFPs please rethink the scare factor in this game. Simply limiting the players vision will make this game's experience 100 % better.
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Yeah I often think about the ps4 version of the game where you could have snowy days in the forest biome or it's damn foggy.

One of the a19 streams they did they've shown the full auto shotgun in the snow biome and changed the settings to be very foggy. You could only see like 3-5 blocks far and I loved it. Thats real survival horror *-* I want that in the weather system

 
4sheetzngeegles said:
Faatal

I have a few questions relating to one subject.

Since TFP has access to all of their archived\older versions Do you
or any of the team ever go to them for any inspiration or do you start
from scratch with each iteration\alpha?

Will or is it possible to do a similar configuration, regarding the weather,
as it was in alpha 15. I am referring to the altitude temperature manager.
Example: Lower altitudes had a hotter climate, as you went higher the temperature
declined. Imagery: Wasteland, if painted to the lowest altitude has the most brutal
heat, then burnt forest, desert, Pine forest, snow in the mountains.

If a single day\night lighting gradient is used for all then it would have less abrupt
visual lighting changes as you move between biomes. The only difference would be the
atmospheric effects, Fog, clouds, LUT, Particle emission.
Gradient ref: sun,moon,fog,fog fade etc. For me its like an atmospheric LUT adjustment.

Biome distribution was also more 3d. It would go along x,y, and z.

With the manager that you are working on, if the above reference is applied could the manager
also be applied to a singular governor for the atmospheric effects? I mean not only the temperature
but as you change altitude, then say you have the existing particle storms, but they would
progressively decline, as you approach the median height, and progress as you approach the
extreme upper and lower distances. Imagery: Pine forest is middle of the height and has ChunkMargin 20,
as you descend\ascend the chunk margin decreases creating a smoother transition visually.

Is the prior code used, Copyright protected or TFP intellectual property, as TFP team mates
change?
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You don't rewrite all your game code for each new release/update. That would be crazy. 95%+ is the same code.

Now you might rewrite a system, but that is often overkill too. I am updating the Weather Manager, not rewriting it. Maybe 40% of the code has been touched.

We are not planning on doing altitude changes for any of it.

All creations by a person/company are automatically the copyright owner by default (in the USA anyway), unless stated otherwise.

 
Blake_ said:
Multiquestion attack !

1.Can you clarify ?

2.What does that mean for weather survival ?

3.What is the intended result/end goal of the weather system ? like : Weather-specific Zombies? Streamlined weather survival/heat-cold management ? or is it just "To look better than before" for now ?
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1 Yes!

2 Nothing much atm other than the weather should change at a consistent rate.

3 The goal of these changes is to make it run faster, look better and not get stuck on ugly conditions. Rain comes and goes in a clean fashion. Snow looks pretty sweet now.

 
madmole said:
Yes because eye wear will probably be a part of the helmet/hat.
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How will the clothing pocket mods work with the replacement system, that being outfits? (Meaning, there is currently a single and double armor pocket mod (excluding the triple variant here), as well as the single and double clothing pocket mods. Will they be merged into a unified system?)

 
Maxley said:
@madmole with the new character models, will we still be able to make our characters bright purple or any other unnatural color? I really enjoy having my character look as bizarre as possible so I hope this will still be a thing. Ark does an excellent job at letting you make a truly abominable characters, though I understand if body shapes like that aren’t possible for the sake of making armor not clip.
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You will choose a head for your appearance. We aren't allowing ugly character customization any more.

 
Weazelsun said:
@madmole Regarding the armor/ clothing sets, what will become of the the special items like the firefighter's helmet, SWAT helmet, football helmet, and military stealth boots? Will they go away or stay and become part of special set?
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New character stuff is being pushed to Alpha 21, there is too much stuff to change out. TBD on your question.

 
MechanicalLens said:
How will the clothing pocket mods work with the replacement system, that being outfits? (Meaning, there is currently a single and double armor pocket mod (excluding the triple variant here), as well as the single and double clothing pocket mods. Will they be merged into a unified system?)
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Yes, one pocket mod to rule them all. There is no concept of clothing any more or armor, just outfits with various stats and mod slots.

 
madmole said:
Yes, one pocket mod to rule them all. There is no concept of clothing any more or armor, just outfits with various stats and mod slots.
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I was already aware of the merger; thanks for answering my question. :)  I'll be most interested if the singles can still be made without a book/schematic/perk.

 
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