PC Alpha 19 Dev Diary

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unholyjoe said:
not that many will care but the screens were done with maxed settings at 4k resolution (this is all for marketing i believe) just like game companies showing this cool looking video of their game but actual game doesnt have those 3d graphics like the video did..
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well comparing to the other screenshots in the market they could be make in the base game no problem like the one with the ranger station and the M60! but this one just looks deceiving! 

  its better to show how the game will look compared to putting makeup on it and saying that this is the real game!

 
Could you all please complain about deceiving advertising in food restaurants, travel agencies or cleaning products first before you rant about a bunch of good looking pictures that are not too far away from what the game actually looks like? 

Thanks 😛

 
PoloPoPo said:
Could you all please complain about deceiving advertising in food restaurants, travel agencies or cleaning products first before you rant about a bunch of good looking pictures that are not too far away from what the game actually looks like? 

Thanks 😛
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Lol, so true... why does people not complain instead about movie ads with stars that are so photoshopped that their skin looks like plastic!  :hippie:

 
I was just driving all my vehicles today and I feel as though motorcycles should have reduced space, they're a very overpowered vehicle. Most people don't make the 4x4 because its a lot slower and is harder to control. The few more spaces of storage still doesn't make it a comparable choice to the motorcycle. I feel like reducing the motorcycle space in half would be more balanced because right now there is no incentive to make the 4x4 besides completionist reasons. If not then i would swap them and make the 4x4 available before the motorcycle since the motorcycle is the obvious superior vehicle. 

 
jorbascrumps said:
They're probably more upset than they need to be, but they do have a point. Playing on max settings I have never (to my recollection) seen the game look like these screenshots, the new tourist design is not currently in the game, and you rarely see that many zombies on screen outside of horde night. You cannot boot up the game today and have an experience as depicted in these screenshots.
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Do people actually play on ultra settings?   I've got a pretty good system (i9 9900k, rtx 2080) and its pretty unplayable on ultra settings for me (3440x1440 reso, though).  Even on high the game isn't as smooth as I'd like it to be, so I usually play with medium settings.

 
PoloPoPo said:
Could you all please complain about deceiving advertising in food restaurants, travel agencies or cleaning products first before you rant about a bunch of good looking pictures that are not too far away from what the game actually looks like? 

Thanks 😛
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Nice whataboutism.

I'm less concerned about the visuals and more about the blatant misrepresentation of gameplay on display. The posts declare to be of A19 gameplay, which they clearly are not. You would rarely (never?) see that many wilderness spawns and that tourist skin is not in the game (yet). If these are purely for marketing purposes then a disclaimer along the lines of "not representative of actual gameplay" should be attached. You often find that kind of messaging in reveal trailers and marketing materials for games.

 
jorbascrumps said:
Nice whataboutism.

I'm less concerned about the visuals and more about the blatant misrepresentation of gameplay on display. The posts declare to be of A19 gameplay, which they clearly are not. You would rarely (never?) see that many wilderness spawns and that tourist skin is not in the game (yet). If these are purely for marketing purposes then a disclaimer along the lines of "not representative of actual gameplay" should be attached. You often find that kind of messaging in reveal trailers and marketing materials for games.
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Have you been to the the wasteland lately?  Not that much far off from what is shown in that screenshot....  Throw in a wandering horde on top of that and you have what is shown in that screenshot...

Here is a quick run through Gravestowne on the Navezgane map.  These are biome spawns only (12 + more not in screenshot).

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Kalen said:
Do people actually play on ultra settings?   I've got a pretty good system (i9 9900k, rtx 2080) and its pretty unplayable on ultra settings for me (3440x1440 reso, though).  Even on high the game isn't as smooth as I'd like it to be, so I usually play with medium settings.
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ultra settings, yes, but on 2560x1080.   For my eyes the extra pixels aren't nearly as noticeable as the bump up in quality settings.

Edit:  I'm not talking about you here - but I find it odd that many people in general do anything possible to get a higher resolution.  Lowering other settings that I find make a big difference (more than resolution) -- and even worse.. putting up with crappy frame rates for a higher resolution.. really?

 
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Blake_ said:
On point 2: It is an ackward moment if Rick Grimes walks through a city and a Zd is punching a wall right next to him while he looks at "it" go and the entity doesn' t notice him. It shouldn't override THAT much. If anything, for the sake of smelling or detection simulation, AKA immersion.  

To defend my case, I will say that they didn't do that before and it was perfect. They do that now and it's not cool. I would argue that this is not Zd dumbness but a complete unfun experience if a Zd doesn't focus on me over a block while I'm standing right there next to him without pathblocking blocks in between.

A zombie game where a Zd might not chase you. Instant buy.

I understand that It's cheap to not check on the player, but in this case it worsens the experience.
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Just because I say something is not a big deal, does not mean it won't be improved. It just means I don't think it is important compared to dozens of the 207 tickets currently assigned to me. How destroy area targets blocks is probably going to change anyway, due to me not liking how some of it works.

 
faatal said:
 It just means I don't think it is important compared to dozens of the 207 tickets currently assigned to me. 
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including that one ticket with massive zombie reach as a client in peer to peer games ;)

Kalen said:
Huh, I'll give that a shot, thanks!
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I may have shadows a bit lowered and something else (can't remember) -- but its way more comparable to Ultra than medium.

 
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SnowDog1942 said:
I may have shadows a bit lowered and something else (can't remember) -- but its way more comparable to Ultra than medium.
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No, you were right.... just changing my resolution to 2560x1080 had a drastic impact.   Ultra runs pretty well.  I can't believe I didn't think to try that before.

 
Thecolours said:
Those new screen shots you guys are posting on Twitter are awesome. You should definitely update the steam page with them.  The ones you have now are old. And I don't even know how old that trailer is that is on there.  
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They are already on Steam, it takes about 24 hours for proxy servers to update.

Xtrakicking said:
At one point, hub cities had instant spawns, so crusading through them felt like it had that many zombies. Good times.
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Wasteland respawns instantly at night.

Annihilatorza said:
The rage on the FB 7D2D thread on these screen shots is something to be believed, fake, pre-rendered, got HDR and Ray tracing added ect.

Although I have never seen the ambulance or that big school bus or the new tourist zombie either.

The new skins look so good, the tourist is so yuck.... I am not sure I want to poke him with a spear lol.
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He is called "The Gasser" now and will emit a cloud of toxic poison so yeah you don't want to melee him without protection. Snowdog probably will though.

3 hours ago, Adam the Waster said:

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He is special infected now.

 
madmole said:
He is called "The Gasser" now and will emit a cloud of toxic poison so yeah you don't want to melee him without protection. Snowdog probably will though.
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I've probably smelled worse things.

Edit:  smelt? smelled? ehh who cares its the internet.

 
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jorbascrumps said:
They're probably more upset than they need to be, but they do have a point. Playing on max settings I have never (to my recollection) seen the game look like these screenshots, the new tourist design is not currently in the game, and you rarely see that many zombies on screen outside of horde night. You cannot boot up the game today and have an experience as depicted in these screenshots.
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These are actual screenshots with some color correction is all. Some people (our professional artists) just know how to take great screenshots. A certain time of day, zombie at the right moment, angles, etc all make a huge difference. It is an art like professional photography.

Xtrakicking said:
I didn't even notice these pics were the new preview screenshots of the game's Steam page.

Isn't it a bit early? As far as I'm concerned, the ambulance and the new tourist "gasser" zombie aren't in the game yet... Not to mention that the pics themselves are a bit deceiving, considering no player will see that many zombies on screen...
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I only counted 27. Set your horde size to 64 alive and you'll see twice as many as in that screenshot.

EDIT: Not to mention a single screamer can get you 64 on screen very fast if you don't kill her quick enough, or wandering horde.

 
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Hazitru said:
I was just driving all my vehicles today and I feel as though motorcycles should have reduced space, they're a very overpowered vehicle. Most people don't make the 4x4 because its a lot slower and is harder to control. The few more spaces of storage still doesn't make it a comparable choice to the motorcycle. I feel like reducing the motorcycle space in half would be more balanced because right now there is no incentive to make the 4x4 besides completionist reasons. If not then i would swap them and make the 4x4 available before the motorcycle since the motorcycle is the obvious superior vehicle. 
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Isn't the 4x4 the same speed as the motorcycle now?

 
So I have been testing out a pure agility build, going sneak, sneak damage and bow first. 

It actually is not as bad as I thought, although the good point about getting most kills as sneak attacks did not work as often as I thought.  The zombies during the day and make you from pretty far away even with points in the skill, heh.... and sleepers do not really give a if you just shine a light in their faces from a few feet away without points in sneak, heh. 

I saw some of the subtle balance you have with exp though, like how all the building materials do not scale with salvage skills, and are mostly there for builds that do not go into strength.  That was actually kinda nice, so I could get a nice building boost of exp that I did not think I would get. 

I also never really noticed that your looting exp was your game stage... that is kinda cool actually.  Looting is probably a great source of exp for every build if you live long enough. 

I do still think the night vision goggles should have +1 agility though.... and it would be cool if there were a ghillie suit mod for armor, and or clothing, in whatever combination would work without making it a mess to implement. 

 
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