PC Alpha 19 Dev Diary

[meganoth]

I'm probably going to restart if I'm being honest. Here I am at 0,0 in a tiny town filled with almost exclusively remnant POI's. I just finished the first trader to trader quest after banging out many buried supplies. Trader Jen is 2.8 km away. I was planning on moving to a new town on my bike, but it seems that's not going to happen. Oh well, I didn't really like my start anyway, number of animal kills aside.

If I were you I would relocate to Trader Jen. If she is the nearest one to your first trader it means there is a high chance all the other traders are packed together in the area Jen is in.

Anyone know how I can roll back to A19 B-163. While im aware of the issues/dangers of playing in an unstable build, 169 even for a beta is far to unpolished and lacks a lot of quality checks that should of been done before releasing (Personal opinion, keep your hate to yourself) Steel Knuckles left click also does not work, I imagine this is due to the changes they made with harvesting. Right click still works however and other gloves work fully as intended. 

Roll-back is impossible if you didn't prepare it AFAIK. If you want the ability you either have to make copies of your game directory that you can start manually or you need something like the mod launcher who has the ability too I think

I'm loving alpha 19, I just feel like ammo is to easy to find and comes with too of it much in loot. I'm day 2 in my world and I already have 100 pistol ammo and alot of rifle ammo as well lol I think when you find ammo you should find maybe 1 or 2 bullets at a time. Its harder to get feathers to make arrows then to get bullets. You could pretty much skip the bow and go straight to a pistol or blunderbuss. 

Maybe its lucky looter that needs to be nerfed. I spected 1 point into lucky looter and you can tell difference is alot. You can find really good stuff early on if you just put one point in it after the tutorial. I just don't want to be a level 3 powerhouse you know but good work I like the new graphics and how you could get injured now. Great update overall guys especially during this pandemic.

Interesting. Someone else found out the difference LL1 makes below player level 20 is less than 1 gamestage. In other words, chance has fooled you.

 

[MechanicalLens]

If I were you I would relocate to Trader Jen. If she is the nearest one to your first trader it means there is a high chance all the other traders are packed together in the area Jen is in.

Too late, world is gone.  I tried a couple worlds after that and RWG was about as poor to me, so I took a break for the rest of today. Maybe tomorrow I'll resume, after I get some shut-eye.

 

[Vintorez]

It is fine, when said assets are placed by professional developers, i.e. used with a budget in the POI. When given free reign to users is where there is a potential for draw calls/poly counts to break FPS. We are nearly done adding environment art anyway.

Maybe down the road there could be an "Allow Vanity Crafting" world setting that enables the recipe for Vanity Blocks which function like wood/metal furniture items, mainly for private servers where griefing isn't an issue.

 

[HungryZombie]

I agree this was ALMOST a gold improvement and I find it exhilarating too.  I'm concerned about newbies (TM).

Shouldn't they(TM) have at least 1 day grace period without animal predators of any kind? Just sayin'.

I disagree. Not that you are wrong necessarily but I think the type of player this game markets to is not the type to quit after one death on day one, but the type of player that says to themselves "Ok, I have to be more careful next time." and then tries again. The survival game genre.  That is an appeal of it's own.

I also like meat that delivers itself.

 

[unholyjoe]

The POI in question. (The one that had a feral spider zombie in it on day 1. No idea if it's a T3 or a T4.)

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new feature added to DBS it also shows us the poi if standing in its bound box.





the poi is house old victorian 01 and it does have a single spawn badass in it.





S_-_Group_Zom_Badass_Only,1,1


QA Tester-unholyjoe

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[MechanicalLens]

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new feature added to DBS it also shows us the poi if standing in its bound box.

 

from what i see in this poi (house_old_victorian_01), there is a sleeper grp of badass and only the 1 spawn.

<property name="SleeperVolumeGroup" value="S_-_Group_Zom_Badass_Only,1,1,S_-Group_Generic_Zombie,3,3,S_-Group_Generic_Zombie,9,10,S_-Group_Generic_Zombie,1,1,S_-Group_Generic_Zombie,1,1,S_-Group_Generic_Zombie,2,3" />

QA Tester-unholyjoe
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Intentional or unintentional?

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new feature added to DBS it also shows us the poi if standing in its bound box.

 

from what i see in this poi (house_old_victorian_01), there is a sleeper grp of badass and only the 1 spawn.

<property name="SleeperVolumeGroup" value="S_-_Group_Zom_Badass_Only,1,1,S_-Group_Generic_Zombie,3,3,S_-Group_Generic_Zombie,9,10,S_-Group_Generic_Zombie,1,1,S_-Group_Generic_Zombie,1,1,S_-Group_Generic_Zombie,2,3" />

QA Tester-unholyjoe
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Intentional or unintentional?

(No idea what happened to that message above; was asking if that spawn was intentional or unintentional. Apologies if this reply gets merged with the rest.)

 

[Adam the Waster]

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new feature added to DBS it also shows us the poi if standing in its bound box.

the poi is house old victorian 01 and it does have a single spawn badass in it.

S_-_Group_Zom_Badass_Only,1,1

QA Tester-unholyjoe
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Thats cool! gives me a bit 

 

[unholyjoe]

(No idea what happened to that message above; was asking if that spawn was intentional or unintentional. Apologies if this reply gets merged with the rest.)

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intentional by the looks of it. you most likely stumbled onto this poi and investigated it.... curiosity kills the cat.




<property name="DifficultyTier" value="3" />







QA Tester-unholyjoe

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[MechanicalLens]

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intentional by the looks of it. you most likely stumbled onto this poi and investigated it.... curiosity kills the cat.

<property name="DifficultyTier" value="3" />


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Good.  I "hated" the encounter, but I wouldn't have it any other way. It definitely caught me off guard. In other words, please never remove this.

 

[Cork55]

Maybe down the road there could be an "Allow Vanity Crafting" world setting that enables the recipe for Vanity Blocks which function like wood/metal furniture items, mainly for private servers where griefing isn't an issue.

Just add the items to the trader list or allow the user to have a small chance to "harvest" the items when they are destroyed. No need to burden the developers with such trivial stuff. Just do it yourself.

 

[madmole]

Ok. Here's my feedback. Game starts, day one at 7:00. At 7:10I found a wolf standing in front of me at the road.

Call it pot luck or an unfortunate event.

The spawns are perfect. We need to work harder for hunt and It's fairly common in small doses.

The only thing that is needed is the NO chance for wolfs, direwolfs, dogs, bears or zombie bears on day 1 at the very least. I didn't mind though, but I'm not neewie and can quickly make a makeshift wood tower and spawn spikes out of my butt just for 1 animal. If I happened to stumble upon it as a new player , what then?

100% death guaranteed.

This was a regular wolf, meaning it CAN happen.

Loving it, I enjoy the new hunting changes overall. Last iteration was like the videogame "Subsistence".

100% survival guaranteed, if they run.

Glad you like it.

Not sure what that's supposed to mean. 

I was making a joke because you play 90 minute days, like you were on 24 hour days now and were level 70 at the end of day 1 and that was how you got a spider.

 

[MechanicalLens]

100% survival guaranteed, if they run.

Glad you like it.

I was making a joke because you play 90 minute days, like you were on 24 hour days now and were level 70 at the end of day 1 and that was how you got a spider.

Oh. Well then, ha ha ha, very funny.

But trust me, I could get to level 70 on day 1 on 10 minute days if I put my mind to it.

 

[madmole]

Animal Tracker is a game changer honestly. I managed to kill well over a dozen rabbits and chickens each within the first couple in-game days. I wasn't even actively hunting, I was just acting like a magpie.

Yeah its not needed at all, I had a few days that were a little tight on food then another chicken ran in front of me and I was fine. With the perk it would be pretty easy I'm guessing. At least MP people can finally eat and SP people have a small challenge and I figured out a way to do it with no code.

 

[madmole]

Mr. Mole,

i understand the Problem.

Alltough it would be artificial, why not have a limit of high Poly Blocks/Decorations all together count to in a chunk?

If thats reached the game doesnt let you set any more of them. and gives a small error message when attempting to place.

Or something similiar, i think you get my intention

I hope im not alone drooling every time i see such a block and would love to customize my base even more

Because I'm the only staff at TFP who builds vanity forts and I'm not pushing to add more features when we have clunky building, clunky combat, no pipe guns, no bandits, no Duke/Noah, poor FPS and 2 other games to ship, and a huge list of QOL improvements to make. We're not deliberately doing something that is going to for sure affect performance and clog inventory or crafting menus that a modder can do in 2 minutes or anyone can cm in 2 seconds.

But yeah that is how Fallout 4 managed it, but the first thing anyone wants to do is get a mod to get disable that limit. We were just talking about how fast Christmas will be here and for us to be stable in A20 by November we'd have to only have 3 months of production time, which isn't much. That will for sure be no bandits for A20 already, and probably just QOL and pipe guns and new pois and zombies for A20 is about all we can do realistically. So you see how stacking more stuff on that isn't needed really hoses the average player.

 

Regarding crits, isn't the chance to get one too low? 16 hour long playthrough with my friends on warrior difficulty, and we only experienced one concussion while getting hit a tremendous amount of times. Seems to me it could use a buff (or a nerf, for that matter). 

Yes every week we have a meeting with Gazz and say "TURN THAT @%$*#! UP". Until I hear people crying here that it is too many crits, I KNOW it isn't high enough. An entire system is offline basically. I have meds pile up and no use for them.

There is another issue, and MP doesn't get crits as much as SP, and its not hard enough in SP yet.

 

[MechanicalLens]

Because I'm the only staff at TFP who builds vanity forts and I'm not pushing to add more features when we have clunky building, clunky combat, no pipe guns, no bandits, no Duke/Noah, poor FPS and 2 other games to ship, and a huge list of QOL improvements to make. We're not deliberately doing something that is going to for sure affect performance and clog inventory or crafting menus that a modder can do in 2 minutes or anyone can cm in 2 seconds.

But yeah that is how Fallout 4 managed it, but the first thing anyone wants to do is get a mod to get disable that limit. We were just talking about how fast Christmas will be here and for us to be stable in A20 by November we'd have to only have 3 months of production time, which isn't much. That will for sure be no bandits for A20 already, and probably just QOL and pipe guns and new pois and zombies for A20 is about all we can do realistically. So you see how stacking more stuff on that isn't needed really hoses the average player.

 

It may be a little bit late to say this, but try not to rush things.  

 

[Lostpsp]

happy Bday to me. yaaaaaa.............

Happy birthday Adam! You bring a lot of fun to these forums. 

 

[Vintorez]

Just add the items to the trader list or allow the user to have a small chance to "harvest" the items when they are destroyed. No need to burden the developers with such trivial stuff. Just do it yourself.

If I was the only player who wanted wanted to add aesthetic decorations to my bases, sure. But tons of people play on private servers with their friends and would like to build bases that are more than pure functionality and having an in-game way to enable such styles would go a long way. Plus I literally mentioned it as something to do "down the road" after the more core aspects of the game are implemented.

 

[Guppycur]

I'm sure someone will mod in craft everything, 

Hey... No modding talk... I won't warn you again.

But seriously, what's with the hitch when zombies spawn in? It's even more noticeable with "that word" zombies... Especially on disk drives. I think the patch notes alluded to something that would cause this (no more preloading?), and was wondering if this was a temporary situation for a greater future fix?

May be a @faatal question...

It is fine, when said assets are placed by professional developers, i.e. used with a budget in the POI. When given free reign to users is where there is a potential for draw calls/poly counts to break FPS. We are nearly done adding environment art anyway.

I noticed the tools in the prefab editor, what is the tfp ideal performance count for prefabs?

 

[Jay_ombie]

Please can we have some warning or just not collect quest rewards when our inventory is full. I collected 20 Molotov's but as (unaware) my inventory was full they dropped instantly to the ground causing total fire and anarchy for me and the trader. Another time I just lost my reward to again a full inventory.

Plus ....

I am still having massive pauses in game whilst something gets loaded in its really a problem in this build, I can not be the only one surely ?

 

[canadianbluebeer]

In Fallout I disable the count for settlements yes.

I've also added a few items for the cool base look. (Canadian items all over the US. heh)

There are a lot of items in FO4 you can't craft unless someone mods in the recipe.

So having items that we can't craft YET, is fine.  CM for now, and once it's gold, I guarantee someone will mod in all the

extra things.

I'll certainly do another extreme overkill base again. (gonna try for a 200m tower next time, not just 100) 

Someone might even mod in some Canadian Imports to liven things up.  (blame the lumberjacks. they're not ok)  

Lotsa chickens, rabbits (ignored) and even deer after the update.  Went to my mining pit, hopped in.. grrrrooowwwlll... uh-oh..

Mr Wolf was in the pit. He got to nibble on me while I picked him apart. 

Graphics are being weird, but was on a dedi server and did NOT wipe after the update, so could be issues with that. (is why no bug report)

Love A19 though. Ginormous improvement over 18.