MechanicalLens
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Removing nerdpoling wouldn't be a one size fits all situation anyway. What about POI's where the main loot room is underground, or even at the ground level? Nope, nerdpoling is probably here to stay.
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Kosmic Kerman
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Would the same thing happen for rebar frames? Would it happen if the frame was attached to the building? Besides were this change to occur do you really thing people would stop? If all you are proposing is the loss of wood frames, this will not deter anyone from cheesing loot. If you are proposing, the inability to nerd pole at all using frames, people would just find another way to get to the rooftop. And so very little would be accomplished at a massive cost. While I understand people not being a fan of cheesing rooftop loot, the costs of removing nerdpoling outweigh the benefits.
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Jost Amman
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Since you're already talking about LCB, I've got a question... is it normal that in A19 single player I can't place a LCB anymore?
I get this "no you can't" sound whenever I try to place one (anywhere) so I just thought you disabled LCBs in SP altogether. Is that so?
Gazz
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As far as I know the game does not lock you out of certain skills at all.
You can get 303 skill points which lets you max out pretty much everything and can rearrange your points at any time with the trader potion.
It's just an issue with players who want to max out all the perks NOW. =P
PoloPoPo
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LCB can still be placed in A19, at least I can do that in SP. Maybe you try to place it too close to a trader?@madmole
Since you're already talking about LCB, I've got a question... is it normal that in A19 single player I can't place a LCB anymore?
I get this "no you can't" sound whenever I try to place one (anywhere) so I just thought you disabled LCBs in SP altogether. Is that so?
Aldranon
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Well I did 40 days and so far A19 is the best overall.
The zombie AI during BM appears to be four different attack modes.
1) The A18 path directly to the player.
2) The "Duck and Weave mode". I believe this is to get the player to waste ammo on their dodging behavior while others attack the walls.
3) The "Hit here hit there mode". The zombie will hit once or twice and move to another location. Keeping the player off balance?
4) The A16 all in on one spot mode". Used when the AI thinks its found a weak spot?
I noticed that mode #1 really kicks in at 3:30 am. I guess its a last Banzai charge attempt to kill off the player?
This could also be because I picked a complex POI (The large Hardware store with the garden area on the right). Its fun however!
The zombie AI during BM appears to be four different attack modes.
1) The A18 path directly to the player.
2) The "Duck and Weave mode". I believe this is to get the player to waste ammo on their dodging behavior while others attack the walls.
3) The "Hit here hit there mode". The zombie will hit once or twice and move to another location. Keeping the player off balance?
4) The A16 all in on one spot mode". Used when the AI thinks its found a weak spot?
I noticed that mode #1 really kicks in at 3:30 am. I guess its a last Banzai charge attempt to kill off the player?
This could also be because I picked a complex POI (The large Hardware store with the garden area on the right). Its fun however!
MechanicalLens
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You're probably too close to a trader.@madmole
Since you're already talking about LCB, I've got a question... is it normal that in A19 single player I can't place a LCB anymore?
I get this "no you can't" sound whenever I try to place one (anywhere) so I just thought you disabled LCBs in SP altogether. Is that so?
RhinoW
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I believe you mean the A17 all in one spot mode, because A16 was the peak of bloodmoon interaction. Yes they did come from only one general direction, but they always tried to go through open entrances (1 gate compound base with scrapyard PoI as base, the most fun i've ever had in bloodmoons) and never focused on just 1 block, in the end, your traps worked and you could predict their movement (duh, you're a human, they're zombies).
In alpha 17 i tried the same strategy (because i love making realistic bases to fight off zombies) this time with 2 gates instead of one, i used that one military poi with the garage and 2 buildings as the base. In the end, as soon as 1 concrete block got weaker than the rest, they all targeted THE SAME 2 blocks, which made everything i put around the base completely useless. A17 new AI definitely ruined bloodmoons for me, and A19 is still the same to be honest, that's why people make stupid @%$*#! unrealistic bloodmoon slaughterhouses instead of proper bases, it's the only reliable way to defend a place. The second being on the rooftop of a random PoI, breaking any connection to there and waiting the bloodmoon out...
madmole
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This might explain some players desire to have mining easier... for them it is IRL and we sometimes forget the struggle we felt learning it, growing our muscles, calluses, cardio ability, etc. The game tries to simulate this to reward players for investing but subconsciously us strong people are like WHAT I CAN LIFT THAT!!! THIS GAME IS BROKEN! lol.
Use some self control.
This is why there are no longer t4 and 5 "fetch" quests because it was way too easy to nerd pole/ladder to the loot area and win with little risk or time invested. It is fun the first time or two, then you feel like a cheating scumbag.
Even if we removed scaffolds, frames, and even ladders you could still make stairs up there, jump out of the gyro, etc. There is literally no way to stop people from getting to those places. The less police work we have to do and the more freedom players have to think through situations in a variety of ways the better IMO.
No they work just fine. Just not right next door to traders lol.@madmole
Since you're already talking about LCB, I've got a question... is it normal that in A19 single player I can't place a LCB anymore?
I get this "no you can't" sound whenever I try to place one (anywhere) so I just thought you disabled LCBs in SP altogether. Is that so?
Please don't be vague.
It gets there eventually. We're all for options that give the game legs or greater/lesser challenge though.
Laz Man
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Trankitas
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Roads leading nowhere, roads with cliffs, crazy unnatural meadows, this didn't happened in A18.4 at all.
Is there any changes made to RWG? or what?
madmole
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Phoenixshade35
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i like the roads that abruptly end, makes me think that the wildlife has overgrown that part of the road and beyond for roleplay purposes, cause who knows how long the zombies have been here since you were dumped off by the duke right.
Jay_ombie
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I always found the maps pretty funky myself, world generators I find interesting and although the roads do go wiggly giggly at times I just tell myself there been earth quakes and land slides etc. fits into the narrative then for me.
Phoenixshade35
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Hey @madmole i have a thought for a book series in the game, what if we made a book that helped to improve the stacks of ammo we can carry with a description like.....
Surviving in the apocolypse has taught me much, including how to better pack your ammo, now you can carry 25% more of .... ammo, could also be used for other types of items as well, what do you think?
Surviving in the apocolypse has taught me much, including how to better pack your ammo, now you can carry 25% more of .... ammo, could also be used for other types of items as well, what do you think?
XCOUNTRY
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Anyone find a lootable Fir tree in Navezgane? It was a fir tree next to Trader Jen at 560 61 480 . All it gave me was 7 feathers. Thought it was weird and took a snapshot of the tree with the loot icon, but the "loot container" dialogue is absent in the photo for some reason, so I won't include it.
MechanicalLens
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