PC Alpha 19 Dev Diary
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faatal
Fun Pimps Staff
Important tasks need to get done, but once things are solid, there is often opportunity to improve other areas of the game. I like jumping around to different tasks. Keeps it interesting.
I don't mind exploits, but not 100% exploits which push you down a specific play style, which then leads to boredom.
almightypmj
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After searching through the forums a bit, it seems this isn't a common issue, but why do I have a problem with my backpack disappearing after death? I just started a new play-through in which I died twice (once by a pig even), I rushed back to the site of my death, and my bag vanished both times on me. The compass/map icon remains but there's nothing there.
terrytheturrets
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One thing i would like to see is more options when starting the game. For example instead of the current difficulty settings have it split into 2 settings. One is hp of zombies. The other one is entity damage zombies does to you. Another one would 2 settings for demolishers. One would be whether you want them or not. 2nd one would be a sliding scaling on damage when it blows up. Another option would be on screamers. Some settings on screamers could be how often they can come, whether or not screamers can summon other screamers.
SylenThunder
Community Moderator / IT Guru
Too many settings just make for a confusing interface that is difficult for new players. It's not like you can't easily mod these things, or find mods already made.
SittingDuck
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Do some Zombies get a special Item drop changes? like a worker Helm for the worker, military stuff for the military, seeds for the Farmer dude etc.?
Guppys Fur
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Can we please get the Hatch Elevator back? That was a FUN Exploit
Guppycur
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People aren't happy with the small maps and generation times, and quite a few have tried the NitroGen map maker which, quite frankly, is very slick (has a bunch of sliders to choose from), quicker, and produces decent maps.
I'm confident Robert can optimize Rwg though, so I ain't skeered.
/Loving the custom map making stuff we can do now using Gaia and Photoshop, so I have no dog in this fight)
I guess the biggest thing for me personally, is that with nitrogen I can make a custom dtm and it'll apply roads and cities for me based on my slider choices, which vanilla can't yet do.
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Dosu Kinuta
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Perfectly explained. By using NitroGen map generator I managed to get the dream maps...way better than anything vanilla has offered (not to say vanilla RWG is bad, but it can be improved a lot). I just hope Madmole won't just be like "Well, then continue to use the NitroGen map generator, no need for us to add so many map gen options if modders can do it already".People aren't happy with the small maps and generation times, and quite a few have tried the NitroGen map maker which, quite frankly, is very slick (has a bunch of sliders to choose from), quicker, and produces decent maps.
I'm confident Robert can optimize Rwg though, so I ain't skeered.
/Loving the custom map making stuff we can do now using Gaia and Photoshop, so I have no dog in this fight)
I guess the biggest thing for me personally, is that with nitrogen I can make a custom dtm and it'll apply roads and cities for me based on my slider choices, which vanilla can't yet do.
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(This is not to be a jerk)
RWG as it stands in A18.4
Terrain generation
Pros:
Looks decent. Does an ok job but not really there yet.
Cons:
No open fields anywhere on any map, except a small area around city/town hubs, depending on its size.
Slower generation times compared to a 3rd party generator.
Less options compared to a 3rd party generator.
Wilderness roads don't utilize the whole map. Which causes a lack of diversity of wilderness prefabs being placed.
Spotty poi placement along those wilderness roads.
Around 50% of those wilderness roads don't even have any buildings on them.
Biome generation
Pros:
Looks decent but lacking in decoration diversity.
Cons:
Decorations on even minor slopes are barren. Trees? grass? bushes? Rocks? smaller prefabs?
Compared even to A17 it is very lacking in that regard.
(won't even go into the modding aspect)
City/Towns prefab placement
Street layout is ok (ish) but still lacking in packing the prefabs in better and utilizing the space available.
Again 3rd party generation does a bit better job in this regard.
IDK, maybe dedicate a couple people to work directly with the designer who put the system in for awhile?
You say you don't get this "vibe" about the rwg, but that "vibe" continues to grow every build. Why not just say f-it and finally put a stake in it already?
Not everyone, is looking to use a 3rd party tool just to get something they are happy with.
Sincerely, I am really no trying to be a jerk or anything.
Damocles
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I dont know if the decoration (trees in particular) on slopes is a bug or intentional. But in the end, since A18, slopes are much more aggressive to prevent vegetation placement than in A17.
This leads to even relatively narrow hills to be completely barren.
It looks ok in the desert, but not at all in the forest biome. (visually having boring empty and grey hillsides)
-> You should check the logic at what slope-angle vegetation is blocked from spawning. Its should allow trees to spawn up to slopes of 45 degrees in my opinion.
This leads to even relatively narrow hills to be completely barren.
It looks ok in the desert, but not at all in the forest biome. (visually having boring empty and grey hillsides)
-> You should check the logic at what slope-angle vegetation is blocked from spawning. Its should allow trees to spawn up to slopes of 45 degrees in my opinion.
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Haidrgna
Tester
As far as the code goes it is a deliberate change to the decoration manager. Certain objects that before were tagged to be able to decorate slopes are now ignored because the slopes are all tagged as no-decoration, rather than to allow small decorations at least. This means not even grasses, bushes and rocks can spawn there.
As far as I know the way decoration worked prior to A18 already did a good job preventing steep slopes from getting decorated by large objects such as trees, but did place some if there was a plateau higher up. I hope they can take a look into the code and check if the current behavior is the intended behavior (and if intended to reconsider or allow more control through xml somehow). The completely barren slopes created by cities when the terrain is flattened for example look really bad.
I normally run the game un-modded but nitro-gen looks interesting.People aren't happy with the small maps and generation times, and quite a few have tried the NitroGen map maker which, quite frankly, is very slick (has a bunch of sliders to choose from), quicker, and produces decent maps.
I'm confident Robert can optimize Rwg though, so I ain't skeered.
/Loving the custom map making stuff we can do now using Gaia and Photoshop, so I have no dog in this fight)
I guess the biggest thing for me personally, is that with nitrogen I can make a custom dtm and it'll apply roads and cities for me based on my slider choices, which vanilla can't yet do.
I like the larger lakes and fewer big cities
Looks to be a fairly complicated install, are there any sample maps I could try to see how they play before I try installing the whole Mod ?
Be nice if it was integrated into 7days.
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