PC Alpha 18 feedback and balancing thread

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Do you have plans to reduce the amount of can food found in the world?
Not sure, is there any data that says there is too much food? We are planning a global loot abundance reduction of 20%, so food will take a hit.

 
Sure, but there are better categories, namely if you concentrate on the utility skills and on the overall characteristics when you select the name:
"Miner" would be a very good name for the strength tree, because it is rather unspecific about weapons and describes the utility skills very well. It is the best tree if you want to play as a miner, right?

"Scavenger" is a very good name for the perception tree, because it is again unspecific about weapons and describes the utility skills very well.

"Tinkerer" for intelligence.

Should I go on?
I just disagree that they are better than what we have, they are a small subset. Does a tinkerer practice medicine in your mind? No he works in a shop on.. stuff. Does a miner kick ass with a shotgun? No evidence of that IMO. Its best as is the current names can easily encapsulate all the current perks and future ones, yet "tinkerer" might sound cool but nobody would guess where doctor skills would be with that setup IMO, but anyone who played former RPGs with INT would just know, because it just works, TM.

 
It will be like it is now, except smashing into things will have a chance to mess up your ride, so going off road will have some risks.
@MM - if you are going to mess our ride off-road you need to drop the mini and make a true off-road bike.

 
So, only your way to play is acceptable?
Dude, you actively invented this entire penetration system where a single round can take out 2, 3, 4 zeds a shot, and then the best way to use it is to stand 3 meters up in the air so you're shooting down at an angle that guarantees, at best, two targets in a line? Come on...

This is the primary reason why people have been asking for steel bars for ages; they want to build a semi-sane bunker point to defend from, and that requires field of view at ground level. The only way currently to achieve that is iron bars. If that's the only thing you're putting down, sure you're a sucker and you deserve what you get, but being told the only proper way to play is build an actual tower and if we don't like it, it's our fault? Come on, you're better than that.
I'm sure MM was just making an example that it doesnt take much to come up with ways to defend against demos, not that was the only way lol.....

 
Not sure, is there any data that says there is too much food? We are planning a global loot abundance reduction of 20%, so food will take a hit.
Wow - no there is not enough. or should I say I would not do anything to reduce the amount. I have some players who are always on deaths door and others who invest heavy into farming and feed the masses.

I am liking the balance ATM.

 
I've enjoyed A18 so far. I've been playing on my own till about level 25 and now we've been playing a separate co-op game with a friend till day 30 / level 60-ish (with 200% exp).
Key feedback gathered from our "playthrough":

+ Books and schematics are amazing. Makes looting much more exciting.

+ Block shape selector feels like a gigantic QoL improvement.

++ Performance feels much more stable than A17 (stutters almost gone) and we've had zero crashes or gamebreaking bugs.

+ Visually the game looks great.

+ New POIs are a welcome addition.

+ Overall the gameplay and progression feel pretty solid.

- Quests get very repetitive quickly. For now, I don't mind that there's only so many quest types, but the locations feel way too limited. I'd rather travel farther to get new quest POIs than do the same buildings over and over again. Perhaps a check to see if the player owns a vehicle and/or has done this specific POI more than once --> offer quests a bit farther away if new locations cannot be found nearby. As we've reached Tier V quests, gameplay quickly gets repetitive if there's only 4 or 5 POIs to quest in.

- INT tree feels a bit lacking, or rather I get the feeling that I should be spending more points on other things. I'd enjoy a proper ranged handheld weapon to have better offensive capabilities. A 4x4 in the yard and workstations in my base won't help me clear out POIs or fight blood moon hordes. :)

Can't wait for A19.

While Louie04k has a potty mouth, there is still a valid point within that spewing of words --> The FoV slider is still missing and it really is a reason to not play for some people. If not for the console command, I don't think I'd play either.
Turrets do wonders in many applications for INT guys. 😎👍

 
With how much of a joke nomad difficulty is, you could probally get away with just using padded armor period.
Why don't you just say what is on your mind and get it off your chest instead of being a passive aggressive crybaby. If you have something to say say it or GTFO and stop wasting my time in the feedback thread. "Its a joke" is not feedback.

 
As I approach the 1800 hours played mark (started at A15.5) I have taken a few moments to reflect on the game and it's progression.


The game looks as good as it ever has, in fact, it's gorgeous.

The game play is still as awesome as ever but now we have so much more to aim for that it has become a game of choosing what to do next and that is fantastic.

After grieving over the loss of the minibike books et al, the addition of the books into A18 has returned that great feeling again, you know the one, the one where you find THAT book, the ONE you needed! The YES!!! moments.

MINING!!! Thank all the gods of the pantheon for bringing back mining as a thing. A real thing that you need to do and is still fun AND ties into the above perfectly.

I really like what TFP have done … A lot.

The game has changed a lot since I started (I can only imagine what the A1 peeps are thinking) and what I see is a game that seems to be achieving the vision of it's creators.

I would however like to see things like more paintable textures and stuff but they are just the fluff, the game itself is great to play.

Now that I have had what I hope is my last Op and am Cancer Free (Yeah Baby) I intend to play the knackers off this thing!

so to put it all into simple to understand terms...

Keep that sh*t coming!
Thanks for the good positive words, after hearing a lot of unneeded useless feedback (crying, complaining with zero critique) this has made my day, and it is great to hear you are cancer free. I would HIGHLY recommend juicing veggies every day or a minimum of twice a week, I've read so much about curing and cancer prevention by juicing colorful veggies and put some fruits in for taste.

 
Oh forgot to mention Steel Tools.
Dunno about the rest of you but they seem to be a lot rarer than other steel items such as the amount of steel sledgehammers you find.

Even finding low level ones to scrap are a challenge.

Is that on purpose?
Loot tables are being reworked.

 
@MM - if you are going to mess our ride off-road you need to drop the mini and make a true off-road bike.
Na, I like to keep it simple. There are mods that reduce damage. You must admit that vehicles are basically god mod and had to have expected some form of nerfs coming. We're not going to make it stupid. It's stupid already, we're just going to make it so there are some risks and collisions and health will increase chance for a break down so you would have to do a road side repair, or walk, or have a spare vehicle in your pocket.

 
I'm sure MM was just making an example that it doesnt take much to come up with ways to defend against demos, not that was the only way lol.....
Yes, it was one old tried and true ways that works well for me. Bars are OP as it is yet they want even more OP. It takes 2 seconds to raise the HP of bars, go ahead, tell me how much fun it was being invulnerable.

 
Wow - no there is not enough. or should I say I would not do anything to reduce the amount. I have some players who are always on deaths door and others who invest heavy into farming and feed the masses.
I am liking the balance ATM.
I suspected his comment was an outlier. Plus you get online and all the cupboards have been ransacked you might be eating rotten flesh a bit.

 
I was reading this and someone mentioned Dynamite, and I was thinking, of my 21st day... Defending the front door from above, opened hatch threw down a pipe bomb....nope dynamite....CRAP... there goes my front door and defense, I am on the ground at 20ish health bleeding and here come more zeds.... FANTASTIC!!!

Anyway, MM mentioned another mode of transport in your pocket, and I still get an extra one every so often when I deploy …

Also keep up the great work TFP.

Semper Fi

 
I was reading this and someone mentioned Dynamite, and I was thinking, of my 21st day... Defending the front door from above, opened hatch threw down a pipe bomb....nope dynamite....CRAP... there goes my front door and defense, I am on the ground at 20ish health bleeding and here come more zeds.... FANTASTIC!!!
Anyway, MM mentioned another mode of transport in your pocket, and I still get an extra one every so often when I deploy …

Also keep up the great work TFP.

Semper Fi
LOL, sounds like something I would do.

 
Thanks for the good positive words, after hearing a lot of unneeded useless feedback (crying, complaining with zero critique) this has made my day, and it is great to hear you are cancer free. I would HIGHLY recommend juicing veggies every day or a minimum of twice a week, I've read so much about curing and cancer prevention by juicing colorful veggies and put some fruits in for taste.
I've been pressure cooking most of the food we eat now and that has made an enormous difference not only to the taste but to the amount of nutrients I am getting.

And I bought a rowing machine! FFS! friggin exercise! Currently trying to bust through the 65KG barrier (not lifting.. body weight!) so watch out MM, that small bloke in the corner is working on the guns! lol

 
I've been pressure cooking most of the food we eat now and that has made an enormous difference not only to the taste but to the amount of nutrients I am getting.
And I bought a rowing machine! FFS! friggin exercise! Currently trying to bust through the 65KG barrier (not lifting.. body weight!) so watch out MM, that small bloke in the corner is working on the guns! lol
Awesome. I deep squatted 395x8 today, Socrastein might even be proud! Well probably until I do it with a free weight. I've been killing it since about 2 weeks before A18 was released. It feels good to be smashing it consistently.

 
Na, I like to keep it simple. There are mods that reduce damage. You must admit that vehicles are basically god mod and had to have expected some form of nerfs coming. We're not going to make it stupid. It's stupid already, we're just going to make it so there are some risks and collisions and health will increase chance for a break down so you would have to do a road side repair, or walk, or have a spare vehicle in your pocket.
But Like jumping off a cliff and taking no damage! well ok so you might be right, they are mostly great. I still would love to see a dirt bike that can handle the off-road areas.

 
Na, I like to keep it simple. There are mods that reduce damage. You must admit that vehicles are basically god mod and had to have expected some form of nerfs coming. We're not going to make it stupid. It's stupid already, we're just going to make it so there are some risks and collisions and health will increase chance for a break down so you would have to do a road side repair, or walk, or have a spare vehicle in your pocket.
Maybe flat tires that require repair kits and a wheel applied by the wrench tool.

At 100% vehicle health there would never be the chance of a flat. As the vehicles health declines that chance for a random flat happening increases. Food for thought :)

 
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Awesome. I deep squatted 395x8 today, Socrastein might even be proud! Well probably until I do it with a free weight. I've been killing it since about 2 weeks before A18 was released. It feels good to be smashing it consistently.
As Neebs Gaming would say when eating Steroids in 7days : "Are you looking to my girlfriend?" "How much you bench?"

 
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