ZombieSurvivor
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@Madmole
Do you think we will ever see the return of rg caves some day?
Do you think we will ever see the return of rg caves some day?
PC Alpha 18 Dev Diary!!
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stallionsden
Tester
Player.log or.
I run win 10
Gpu is a gainwood 1070
8k vram
Cpu 6700k core 7
32k ram
4k tv res
Settings - ultra and high won't play on anything less cause I may as well be playing a 80s arcade game....
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Jugginator
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Yeah definitely shotgun is viable. My horde base that's only for hordes is kinda like the Pentagon, cept it's square. 3 square walls around each other 4 blocks high spaced 1 block apart from each other with spikes inbetween. I have wood bars on top, and i usually use my level 1 shotgun with no shotgun perks to start the night to use excess shells I've found, the 4 height seems effective, get quite a few kills before running out and switching to my main AK/7.62 ammo.
By the way, does the "forgetim' " drink or whatever the trader sells give you a respec? If not what does it do? I kept forgetting to check it and the trader doesn't have it for sale atm.
Damocles
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What I would do is increasing the cost of the path grid where zombies died. If more the two died nearby, increase the cost in that area. This will let the pathsearch favor other paths over time, marking the killing corridor a bad way to take.For sure.
I don't think it's random.
When you set up a killing corridor correctly.
they will all run up and fall off the ledge, rinse and repeat.
I'm saying 50% of the zombies do that. And 50% attack your base and don't run up and do that.
I understand that would be difficult to code. Just an idea♥
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And I know people will find a way.
But before the zombies had this improved AI you didn't see stuff like this.
Because they just attacked all over.
if there was a mix of AI from a15 for example and AI now. That wouldn't be too bad.
Those extra costs could vanish over time, resetting to zero cost.
faatal
Fun Pimps Staff
If you are getting 2 FPS with that hardware, then you have a serious problem going on. I can get 10 FPS on a garbage AMD HD 5770 1 GB VRAM from 10 years ago.
Try:
1 Reboot the computer
2 Remove any 7dtd mods you might have
3 Start steam and Verify Integrity Of Game Files from the properties for 7dtd
4 Start 7dtd with no other programs running (other than steam)
5 Set screen resolution to 1920x1080 and VSync off
6 Set Video settings to High and Apply
7 Start a new Navezgane map
8 Check FPS (F8 key)
It definitely work as intended and there is a different sound it makes on a glancing blow Vs full solid hit. Usually glancing blows will hit slightly downwards from the tip but the animation stays the same. Cross screen Swinging weapons can multi hit using glancing blows too.
Some multi-player users I believe are experiencing some hit detection issues, but single player is solid.
bobross
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So, since Madmole got a chuckle out of our friend screwing us by spending two full 120-minute game-days soloing around on the server with nobody else around, I present the consequences of his actions... Day 28 Horde Night.
We got rekt.
So we had no choice but to reuse the same POI (the radio tower one) and repair the defenses that remained. Our friend who caused the issue wasn't playing tonight (the rat), so there was four of us. Computed gamestage was 204, 279 spawning per wave, 63 alive according to the logfile. That means wave one started out with radiateds, and it went downhill from there. We were doing okay, but I could already tell only a couple minutes in that we weren't going to quite have enough ammo. We've got that issue fixed moving forward now, but yeah. Then Wave 2 started.
Oh. My. Crap.
Demolishers. SEVENTEEN OF THEM. Do you know what kind of hole SEVENTEEN DEMOLISHERS punches through a defensive perimeter? I'll tell you. There were literally no spikes or barbed wire left on our south side. we started them nearly 15 meters out from the wall (I think 10 out from the fence). They managed to get into the building. They took out THE BUILDING.
Naturally we all died in new and horrible ways. Some observations:
1. I was the highest level I believe, at 38. (Finished at 41.) We're on adventurer and were just now getting to the point where we're getting purples in loot on a semi-regular basis. Also we're on Adventurer, so I think that the scaling may be a wee bit out of whack for MP. Or maybe not, and we just need to beat our friend to a bloody lump and use him as bait for the zombies.
2. After respawn, our home base (which was a good 4-500m away) had a Radiated at it almost immediately. I don't know if it was spawned in as we were dying, or what. kiting it into spikes killed it and seemed to keep the BM avoidance intact. (Note: seemed.)
3. Killing zombies by driving them down with the 4x4 does not seem to restart the BM horde. One of us jumped in ours and managed to take out the stragglers that way. They're showing up in the logs as "Entity X killed" instead of "killed by <player>".
4. After a few minutes, we made our way back over and got our bags, started finding our junk turrets, standard post-battle chores. The last death was at 21:39:18 in the logs. At 21:51:05, the horde resumed right where it'd left off, with count 70 of 279, and rekt us all over again. No zombies were near enough to have spotted us, no kills were made by anyone. The only thing that happened immediately prior was that I had spotted a junk turret partially buried, and I broke the block next to it. This caused it to "float" up out of the block it was half-buried in. Immediately after that someone called incoming.
After that the horde did not ever actually finish spawning. Last one was 113 of 279, and we cleaned up (by running over with a 4x4 again) wrapping up at dawn. It was great fun, and now we go off to figure out how to make disposable horde bases, because we can't quite figure how we're going to keep 17+ Demolishers from wrecking anything we throw in their path.
We got rekt.
So we had no choice but to reuse the same POI (the radio tower one) and repair the defenses that remained. Our friend who caused the issue wasn't playing tonight (the rat), so there was four of us. Computed gamestage was 204, 279 spawning per wave, 63 alive according to the logfile. That means wave one started out with radiateds, and it went downhill from there. We were doing okay, but I could already tell only a couple minutes in that we weren't going to quite have enough ammo. We've got that issue fixed moving forward now, but yeah. Then Wave 2 started.
Oh. My. Crap.
Demolishers. SEVENTEEN OF THEM. Do you know what kind of hole SEVENTEEN DEMOLISHERS punches through a defensive perimeter? I'll tell you. There were literally no spikes or barbed wire left on our south side. we started them nearly 15 meters out from the wall (I think 10 out from the fence). They managed to get into the building. They took out THE BUILDING.
Naturally we all died in new and horrible ways. Some observations:
1. I was the highest level I believe, at 38. (Finished at 41.) We're on adventurer and were just now getting to the point where we're getting purples in loot on a semi-regular basis. Also we're on Adventurer, so I think that the scaling may be a wee bit out of whack for MP. Or maybe not, and we just need to beat our friend to a bloody lump and use him as bait for the zombies.
2. After respawn, our home base (which was a good 4-500m away) had a Radiated at it almost immediately. I don't know if it was spawned in as we were dying, or what. kiting it into spikes killed it and seemed to keep the BM avoidance intact. (Note: seemed.)
3. Killing zombies by driving them down with the 4x4 does not seem to restart the BM horde. One of us jumped in ours and managed to take out the stragglers that way. They're showing up in the logs as "Entity X killed" instead of "killed by <player>".
4. After a few minutes, we made our way back over and got our bags, started finding our junk turrets, standard post-battle chores. The last death was at 21:39:18 in the logs. At 21:51:05, the horde resumed right where it'd left off, with count 70 of 279, and rekt us all over again. No zombies were near enough to have spotted us, no kills were made by anyone. The only thing that happened immediately prior was that I had spotted a junk turret partially buried, and I broke the block next to it. This caused it to "float" up out of the block it was half-buried in. Immediately after that someone called incoming.
After that the horde did not ever actually finish spawning. Last one was 113 of 279, and we cleaned up (by running over with a 4x4 again) wrapping up at dawn. It was great fun, and now we go off to figure out how to make disposable horde bases, because we can't quite figure how we're going to keep 17+ Demolishers from wrecking anything we throw in their path.
Also, since Trader start showing some decoration item and crap items and total item count increase in game, can we have trader showing more items as well? Currently their list is still same size as in A17 it feels like that, but we have so many new guns and item added to them, not to mention all those books and mod.
MrSamuelAdam
New member
Do you guys generally have higher or lower FPS with texture streaming on?
I generally have it off, but wondering about everyone else's experiences.
I generally have it off, but wondering about everyone else's experiences.
Jugginator
Moderator
Aside from what Fataal said, run Windows update and make sure you get all the .NET framework updates and etc. Note this could (usually does) take multiple passes, and check for updates even if it says no updates are available. And, may seem silly but it happens commonly, make sure you're running on your actual video card, not the on-board connection. But yeah, I get 60+ fps indoors and anywhere between 20-50 outdoors depending (about to try the new update now), on my potato laptop lol.
Also, if you're running at 4k, lower the resolution. 4k is very hard to get good FPS on.
Updates make a huge difference, trust me on that one.
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Generally off, but my integrated GPU only has 1gb VRAM allocated to it. I find occlusion is a 50/50, but in the big Shotgun Messiah factory occlusion def helped.
bobross
New member
Faatal:
I'm still getting 25-30FPS with Anisotropic Filtering on, and 60+ with it off. Using gfx af 0 gets me to 60, but 1 or 2 are both right around 27-28. Still 60+ indoors as well.
This is with a Radeon RX580 8GB card, Ryzen 5 2600 CPU, and 16GB of RAM running off of an SSD. Windows 10 1903 running from a (separate) NVMe SSD. Just passing on that there's still something a tad funky.
I'm still getting 25-30FPS with Anisotropic Filtering on, and 60+ with it off. Using gfx af 0 gets me to 60, but 1 or 2 are both right around 27-28. Still 60+ indoors as well.
This is with a Radeon RX580 8GB card, Ryzen 5 2600 CPU, and 16GB of RAM running off of an SSD. Windows 10 1903 running from a (separate) NVMe SSD. Just passing on that there's still something a tad funky.
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Tetrameth
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Yes, I made mention of it earlier. MM responded asking us to let him know which zeds in particular. I am waiting on the update to play again and roll out a list.
1 in particular that I have always had issues with in the past is the nurse, her headshots are like shooting a blob of jelly, they go right through without any effect whatsoever.
There are def more to come once I get the game rolling again and can screenshot them
MrSamuelAdam
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What does the gfx af 0 command do exactly, what's it removing. Is that a better command than pp enable 0 one that people were using?
TopAce6
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I'M So glad to read this coming from you. That it's a factor you're conscious of. Heck Nvidia seems to default
driver settings to limited gamma aka 15-235, instead of 0-255 full range.
I Play in my home theater, sitting on my couch with a big ISF calibrated screen, and true discrete sound. When a game dev isn't conscious of "mastering" using calibrated equipment, it makes it frustratingly hard for an end user to get video and sound looking/sounding right.
Too often you can tell a dev is doing color and chroma on a uncalibrated monitor. Which totally screws those of us with a properly calibrated screen at home.
The same sentiment goes for Audio too. Headphones are nice, but nothing comes close to true FULL RANGE Speakers in a discrete 5.1, 7.1, and now 5.1.4 (4 height speakers for atmos) setup.
Again It's usually easy to tell when a audio dev is mastering on Headphones.....As everything sounds like CRAP.
MrSamuelAdam
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Cool.
Yeah, my FPS seems to be around 75-85 in the open without it on.
Just tried the gfx af 0 and FPS went to 110.
Do you have to restart your game to remove the gfx af 0 command? I left the game and came back and it was still applied.
MechanicalLens
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But if you're planning on using iron bars as somewhat of a wall as I am, then I request one small thing for A19: Steel bars. Iron bars are great, don't get me wrong, but once you start getting to later gamestage hordes, if you wish to still use iron bars as a wall of sorts (or to attract the zombies to a certain location, even)... even multiple rows are just wet tissue paper at that point. So yeah, steel bars (3500-4000 HP)... That would be nice.
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