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Mentioning this here because not sure if intentional or not.

I happened to pass by a buried chest I had dug up for a trader quest. I looked at it and it had respawned loot. Was a few bits of can food and a hobo stew. Was couple more things in there but never noticed what they were as I had just hit R automatically. I know the food was there because I had none on me before.

So are these suppose to respawn loot like a regular container or was it not suppose to happen.

 
any words on servers having terrible cpu performance? (pre gen world)

I can't find any topics about it and dont want to bump my topic in support over and over again.. :(

 
Can we really have some Wood Bars, Plate Frames for Corner. Like L-shape 2 plates and WoodBar on both adjoining edges. They really help make out room looks good.

 
To be fair try shooting a snake in real life.
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How? They don't have a trigger.

Just curious when is another bug fix experimental get updated? 10 days, 15 days, next Monday?
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I think the big issue right now is this odd performance problem that some are experiencing.

(those who don't have it are too busy playing to post much)

There are other changes and fixes coming up but those are small potatoes in comparison.

 
All I meant was we're going to be testing on some minimum spec systems from now on to make sure everything runs as expected on minimum supported hardware. Its really weird you are getting poor fps with a card that nice, that is the same card I use and I get 30 fps running 4k, 50-60fps running 1920.
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Oh Holiest of Moles!

Is it an idea perhaps to update the minimum hardware requirements for the game on Steam? I don't know if this has already been done, but it might paint a better picture for new customers.

 
Made some good progress today on FPS tanking. Looks like textures getting dumped or not loaded into VRAM combined with the near terrain shader's texture use.

Made some changes to improve debugging:

Added gfx st budget/forceload console commands.

Added gfx tex console command to show texture usage info.

Added gfx dt console command help.

Changed gfx key console command to not put GAME_ in front of name.

Added GAME_MSTEST and GAME_MSTESTBASE keywords to Micro Splat shaders to use gray instead of textures.

We started a build, so the testers can use these for debugging tomorrow and I'll keep experimenting.

 
I see. Sounds hard as ballz to fix.Wait a sec, Now that you mention it... terrain/mountain/cliff textures are at full resolution on lowest settings, or at least very detailed. Shouldn't they be crappy by reducing texture size in video options? Changing it to mid/quarter/eighth size seems to have no or very little effect on them. .

Thank you for taking the time to answer .
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That is because terrain textures are tiled and are high res to start, so reducing them makes them look blurry up close, but in the distance they still have enough resolution to look good.

 
Made some good progress today on FPS tanking. Looks like textures getting dumped or not loaded into VRAM combined with the near terrain shader's texture use.
Made some changes to improve debugging:

Added gfx st budget/forceload console commands.

Added gfx tex console command to show texture usage info.

Added gfx dt console command help.

Changed gfx key console command to not put GAME_ in front of name.

Added GAME_MSTEST and GAME_MSTESTBASE keywords to Micro Splat shaders to use gray instead of textures.

We started a build, so the testers can use these for debugging tomorrow and I'll keep experimenting.
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Do you have a machine that experienced a slowdown like the many users reported?

Else I guess its hard to see a feedback when changing parameters.

Always good to have some crap computers in the QA.

 
@faatal: !THIS!
Reducing Anisotropic Filtering in Nvidia Control Panel from a manual setting of 16 to 4 gives me a huge framerate increase in the desert.

Having now stable 60 frames when watching distant desert terrain, before it was about 30 and less.

Yeah :)

Looks like, the game itself has 8 as internal setting? (compared "Application Controlled").

Thx for the idea!

My system:

I5 6400, 16GB, Nvidia 1060 6GB (exclusive fullscreen @1680x1050 + Nvidia adaptive VSYNC on)
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Cool. Terrain uses a lot of texture lookups, so the filtering could be compounding it. We can change AF globally or on specific textures.

I'll give this some testing tomorrow.

 
Do you have a machine that experienced a slowdown like the many users reported?Else I guess its hard to see a feedback when changing parameters.

Always good to have some crap computers in the QA.
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I have a GTX 960 in addition to my RTX 2070 in my PC now. I'm using the 960 for now and can tank the Unity editor to 4 FPS, by switching between texture quality levels. Forcing near terrain shader to a single color will jump it up to 55 FPS. Need to look at the heavy parts of that shader. It does have various modes.

 
I am always an int character at 7d2d and i cant actualy aim bc of both i am not talented mouse control and my fps is low so i fell in love with turret sendrome but there is a problem idk my friends has the same thing so i am not so sure if it is a bug or not ,intellect is all locked it says it needs 1 int but still locked and doesnt show a level need we just confused . We think i guess we need to be lvl 10 to open intellect part maybe idk .

 
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I have a GTX 960 in addition to my RTX 2070 in my PC now. I'm using the 960 for now and can tank the Unity editor to 4 FPS, by switching between texture quality levels. Forcing near terrain shader to a single color will jump it up to 55 FPS. Need to look at the heavy parts of that shader. It does have various modes.
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From 4 to 55 FPS, everything else being the same? Sounds like the main culprit then.

 
I have a GTX 960 in addition to my RTX 2070 in my PC now. I'm using the 960 for now and can tank the Unity editor to 4 FPS, by switching between texture quality levels. Forcing near terrain shader to a single color will jump it up to 55 FPS. Need to look at the heavy parts of that shader. It does have various modes.
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Oooo that's my video card...*Does a Mr. Burns* "Excellent"

 
Made some good progress today on FPS tanking. Looks like textures getting dumped or not loaded into VRAM combined with the near terrain shader's texture use.
Made some changes to improve debugging:

Added gfx st budget/forceload console commands.

Added gfx tex console command to show texture usage info.

Added gfx dt console command help.

Changed gfx key console command to not put GAME_ in front of name.

Added GAME_MSTEST and GAME_MSTESTBASE keywords to Micro Splat shaders to use gray instead of textures.

We started a build, so the testers can use these for debugging tomorrow and I'll keep experimenting.
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Maybe a dumb question, will those commands carry over to normal A18.0 release?

It would be great to be able to diagnose performance bottlenecks to maybe get a clue on what to do about them.

Currently (A14-A17.4) there is times when performance drops and no clear indication on why (plenty of free ram & Vram, no fully loaded cpucores and gpu is not stressed either (and no/low diskaccess too)

I have suspected this is some Unity issue for all years and it would be awesome to see just where the problem comes from.

 
Maybe I'll submit a bug report. I can fly around in god mode in the desert in pregen02 and maintain good fps while in pregen01 my system ram gets maxed out and fps drops into the single digits.
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the same happened for me in pregen01 while testing the AF settings in the desert.

Solution: restart the whole game (the exe, not only the save game), this will help most of the time here. If this doesn't help, then teleporting in another biome, waiting some seconds and teleporting back into the desert solved it for me.

 
Cool. Terrain uses a lot of texture lookups, so the filtering could be compounding it. We can change AF globally or on specific textures.
I'll give this some testing tomorrow.
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:)

If you're looking for a specific testing spot, give pregen01 a try. The worst performance I'm getting is in the snow biome at the trader (on top of the building, looking at the snowy hills).

 
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Even with low FPS , medium graphics settings, motion blur off, I'm not getting any stuttering. Really enjoying the content and combat. The loot is a little OP(maybe I'm only on day 5) 800 dukes for a level 1 M-60 is a steal BTW. Cheers guys got my fingers crossed you can nail down the performance so I can enjoy full textures.

 
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