PC Alpha 18 Dev Diary!!

[andrough]

I for one am eager to play with the new electric drawbridges and doors, finally having them in the right proportion is also exciting, a true gift to base design. Think we're just stretching thin now while we wait, we have covered so many things in depth already. Glad the MF list keeps shrinking, Friday may be a long shot, but merely being that close is exciting.

I foresee a cheesy horde base design that toggles between two easy routes causing the zombies to just move back and forth like a shooting gallery.

 

[Hek Harris]

Anyone wanna talk about farming....?

Easy : first thing you have to do is burn a hoe. Then go to your favorite market and buy some potatoes.

 

[Mechanimal]

Anyone wanna talk about farming....?

Since the new plots are their own block what kind of SI stats do they have? For example, how far out could I make a garden terrace off the side of a building out of just those blocks before my precious garden succumbed to gravity...

 

[rdunham3]

They did that in A16, military zombos usually had mil armor and high tier weapons etc. The punk zombies always had mech parts on them for some reason, and so on. So it was in place at some point. I hope they not only bring that back but also increase the ratio of bag drops, one of the mods I played did that and it greatly eased the pain of losing Z loot from A16.

When they stopped doing that I stopped looking for certain zombies and choosing to stop what I was doing for certain types whilst mostly avoiding others. I miss that.

Perhaps the new encounters can reinstate increased chance of certain loot types from certain zombies...we can hope.

 

[Mechanimal]

I foresee a cheesy horde base design that toggles between two easy routes causing the zombies to just move back and forth like a shooting gallery.

Ah, yes I imagine we are going to see all kinds of new and elaborate dynamic tower defense style setups being tried out, especially by youtubers like JaWoodle and Cap00. They both make tons of vids experimenting with game mechanics like this.

 

[rdunham3]

Unrelated to farming...Madmole, when you said you aren't done with food yet, will there be a way to turn sham into shamwiches so we can make more sham chowder? Or direct recipe to use sham in the creation of sham chowder, bypassing the sandwich step entirely?

 

[Odetta]

I'll need real game play footage to get on that hype train. Like most sci fi game resort to some vibrant mushroom world (Morrowind), Outer Worlds, and that crap just turns me off. I prefer a nasty scary desolate universe like Aliens. Even doom 3 had a good vibe and art style there. Don't get me wrong, I'll probably play outer worlds, but all the neon color I don't care for, feels artificial.
I didn't have any idea what fallout was about though and previews of it looked kinda corny to me, but once I played the familiar Bethesda game mechanics I liked it a lot, so I expect the same with Starfield.

Half life 2 had pretty good alien design too, I liked how grounded it felt. Most space games go nuts with color. Like if they are inspired by Star Wars I'd be pretty happy too.

Ok Madmole, Todd Howard calls you up and says, "Hey Joel, I love your zumbie game and would love for you to design the next Fallout! Can you give me something right now to pitch to the guys?"

If you got the reins how would design the next Fallout?

 

[rdunham3]

I foresee a cheesy horde base design that toggles between two easy routes causing the zombies to just move back and forth like a shooting gallery.

The randomness Faatal has introduced into a18 AI pathing is, if I understand correctly directly intended to counter this. Some zombies will ignore easy and simply pound their way through instead. Others will try to figure out how you got to where you are (breadcrumbs) and attempt to follow. With some being leapers now that might just mess with the cheesers enough...nah...

 

[andrough]

Ah, yes I imagine we are going to see all kinds of new and elaborate dynamic tower defense style setups being tried out, especially by youtubers like JaWoodle and Cap00. They both make tons of vids experimenting with game mechanics like this.

Oh, I'm not hating on cheesy tactics; it was just a prediction. I have my own set of tricks I use, especially on my suspended box design. I love the cheese as much as my fellow red-(cholesterol-)blooded Americans.

Edit: I became curious after this post and started researching annual cheese consumption per capita. Boy did I think we'd be much closer to the top! Round of cheese to the room on me for making asses out of us!

 

[PeterB]

Madmole,any news on this ? Did the team make a responce why we havent this ?

Hi Sam_Neil,

This well is known in the prefabbing world. We have this stuff and easy to do only with the in-game tools. Just ask a prefabber on Guppycur Discord how to do it. No magic behind it.

Nevertheless I’d love to see a proper documentation for the game.

 

[Bifferd]

20 MF's its not looking too good. We'll make the official decision tomorrow. MP and RWG stuff mostly. Junk turrets disappear of a dead body dies by it, which really sucks. Thrown spears against rage zombies goes right through them, another can't ship bug. Good thing I'm doing INT Perception build. RWG 8k won't work on radeon. Some RWG maps have no trader at all, towns spawning in rad zones. We'll get it, but its too much on one guy right now. 15% this Friday chance IMO, 90% chance for Oct 4.
I sure could use a couple more weeks to polish perception/intellect too. As much as I am having fun I'd like those builds to have my stamp of approval too. No idea if they are horde viable.

I am really hoping that this is MM downplaying the hype and that the team pulls it off for this weekend.

But seriously I know you all will present the best game possible for the release of A18. Keep up the good work.

 

[agrastiOs]

Here's something people don't talk much about here: The Dynamic Music System sounds pretty good, and I'm curious how will it play out when A18 releases. Some of the music snippets sound genuinely good, and it would be awesome if 7DTD was also known for its great soundtrack. I would love it if the DMS incorporated the track which can be heard in these official 7DTD videos:

https://youtu.be/pPQ_FE0YMhs. I love that piano.
Who's the composer for the DMS, BTW?

 

[meganoth]

Ok Madmole, Todd Howard calls you up and says, "Hey Joel, I love your zumbie game and would love for you to design the next Fallout! Can you give me something right now to pitch to the guys?"
If you got the reins how would design the next Fallout?

Is there a hoe in fallout? If yes, I can predict step 1. :cocksure:

 

[andrough]

The randomness Faatal has introduced into a18 AI pathing is, if I understand correctly directly intended to counter this. Some zombies will ignore easy and simply pound their way through instead. Others will try to figure out how you got to where you are (breadcrumbs) and attempt to follow. With some being leapers now that might just mess with the cheesers enough...nah...

I've got nothin' against a little AI cheesing and don't really think it's worth it to balance against every single possibility unless it's truly broken. However, I do hope the AI is a little more unpredictable. I like when they just come en masse and throw themselves at anything in an attempt to get a bite of me. I am looking forward to Faatal's changes- sounds like he knows his stuff and has some good ideas according to his posts here.

 

[DaVegaNL]

Question for you, my geologist comrade: is the diamond still the hardest mineral? Or there is some new alloy harder than diamond?

Uh I don't actually know if there's some artificial material stronger than diamond. As far as i know diamond is the strongest natural stuff. Love is stronger of course.

<3

 

[DaVegaNL]

Its still not as efficient as a shovel, but doable. Imagine turning the pick sideways and raking out of the way.

Fair enough mate.

 

[DaVegaNL]

down snowdog, down I say. he didnt mean it like that!

He's just talking about the fact that rocks are hard.

 

[Trankitas]

Uh I don't actually know if there's some artificial material stronger than diamond. As far as i know diamond is the strongest natural stuff. Love is stronger of course.
<3

I know an alloy stronger than diamond DaVegankitas ♥

 

[Ouch Quit It]

20 MF's its not looking too good. We'll make the official decision tomorrow. MP and RWG stuff mostly. Junk turrets disappear of a dead body dies by it, which really sucks. Thrown spears against rage zombies goes right through them, another can't ship bug. Good thing I'm doing INT Perception build. RWG 8k won't work on radeon. Some RWG maps have no trader at all, towns spawning in rad zones. We'll get it, but its too much on one guy right now. 15% this Friday chance IMO, 90% chance for Oct 4.
I sure could use a couple more weeks to polish perception/intellect too. As much as I am having fun I'd like those builds to have my stamp of approval too. No idea if they are horde viable.

Coughs *

* Coughs

 

[Scyris]

20 MF's its not looking too good. We'll make the official decision tomorrow. MP and RWG stuff mostly. Junk turrets disappear of a dead body dies by it, which really sucks. Thrown spears against rage zombies goes right through them, another can't ship bug. Good thing I'm doing INT Perception build. RWG 8k won't work on radeon. Some RWG maps have no trader at all, towns spawning in rad zones. We'll get it, but its too much on one guy right now. 15% this Friday chance IMO, 90% chance for Oct 4.
I sure could use a couple more weeks to polish perception/intellect too. As much as I am having fun I'd like those builds to have my stamp of approval too. No idea if they are horde viable.

" RWG 8k won't work on radeon" pretty serious bug but hey you get what you pay for when you buy AMD videocards. They are cheap for a reason. Good to hear the streaming thing might be oct 4th though.