PC Alpha 18 Dev Diary!!

[madmole]

LOL so true.

 

[Roland]

I can do a plate planter in 15-20 minutes, we've been fighting that gap for 5-6 years now, so its not happening.

You would have to abandon the diamond terrain voxels and go to cube terrain voxels like you did briefly back in Alpha 8 or 9. The question is whether the gap is worse than boring square shaped caverns. I say no but maybe the pendulum has swung the other way on how important the underworld appears....

 

[Guppycur]

But then the plant floats 1m above the plate?


That's something I've been thinking about. The density of a terrain block *below* such a planter would probably have to be pushed up.

The ones to the side remain static.

No one has played with densities more than Pille. He really would be an asset to any research you have on it... (Dude who created the latest prefab editor)

 

[madmole]

...I still don't understand the relationship between food, water, health and stamina, or why my bar never goes up despite the pills and bandages, food and drink... or why I have competing buffs... it's a huge cluster♥♥♥♥ and I hope it's solved for a18.

19 probably.

 

[Genosis]

On Snowdogs desktop probably.

lol yeowch. Look, now you made it weird.

 

[Guppycur]

You would have to abandon the diamond terrain voxels and go to cube terrain voxels like you did briefly back in Alpha 8 or 9. The question is whether the gap is worse than boring square shaped caverns. I say no but maybe the pendulum has swung the other way on how important the underworld appears....

Untrue. Densities. Alloc hates them but prefabbers love them.

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19 probably.

I'll take it.

 

[madmole]

We are not developers...we are the survivors.

Yeah but day 1 was too hard with all the changes you haven't seen. New players need a chance to learn the game and not get raped 500 times by cheap deaths, so we made some good changes.

 

[madmole]

But then the plant floats 1m above the plate?


That's something I've been thinking about. The density of a terrain block *below* such a planter would probably have to be pushed up.

The ones to the side remain static.

Yikes, good point. Craftable dirt clods maybe...

 

[Guppycur]

Yeah but day 1 was too hard with all the changes you haven't seen. New players need a chance to learn the game and not get raped 500 times by cheap deaths, so we made some good changes.

Have y'all considered a little 512 by 512 starter world where players can slowly get introduced to these situations?

I'd be happy to make one in its entirety for you, if I had some assurance that you would stop nerfing the base game for newbies...

 

[Gothyc]

The planter plate first came up as Chiko's suggestion, many pages ago, and already back then Gazz mentioned that planted crops would float 1 meter above them. So yeah, probably not as easy as it sounds.

Personally, I always surrounded my farms with wooden plates just for aestethics.

My bigger concern is that my farm will shrink from six or seven 10x10 fields each with their own crop, down to.. maybe a tenth of that(?) depending on how much rotten flesh can be found. I hope the recipe will be balanced in the end, but hey that's what experimentals are for.

 

[Aldranon]

Its a shameless display how people try to be your friend all of a sudden. But we have always been dear, dear friends.

Milk Drinkers...

 

[RevenantWit]

I think you underestimate day 1 A18. You all would have been wolf/mountain lion/coyote poo or walker poo for sure had we not intervened.

Good then I would have learned and adapted as someone should just as I did when I started playing insane, nightmare run, 25% loot, no airdrops , 60 minute days, and no guns. So yes to more honestly answer your question earlier I would have totally killed the zombies with my club and primitive bow, and maybe a little ingenuity just like I always do and have since I first started playing this game. I don't know maybe it's just me but it feels like this game is headed more in the fps looter direction and way less toward a survival crafting game which is what I enjoyed originally.

Que Sera Sera I suppose

 

[SrslyGTFO]

nests yield cloth sometimes if you destroy them after looting. With the lower feather counts I am now in the habit of chopping up every nest I loot since that is a couple more feathers and pretty soon I can craft bandages even in the desert.

I think this was an older pre-farmgate post, but since you two were sharing cloth tips for desert starters: simply hit any backpacks, sports bags or duffel bags to get enough cloth to make two bandages each. At least all those empty bags are worth something that way.

 

[Roland]

I remember being out in the open at night (unmodded games) with 15 zombies in the vicinity, and cowering on top of a large boulder - waiting for daylight. There was no way I was outrunning them. If I moved, they'd sense me, and I was done. If they came too close, they'd sense me, and I was done.
So while technically not physically boxed in, I was still boxed in.

#MakeOutdoorsGreatAgain

-A

Then your wish came true because Madmole INCREASED biome spawns of zombies at night in the Wasteland. Go forth and get boxed in on a boulder.

 

[Aurelius]

Is that a banana in your bikini or are you happy to see me?

You need a visit to the optometrist. That's clearly a baby carrot.

-A

 

[madmole]

You would have to abandon the diamond terrain voxels and go to cube terrain voxels like you did briefly back in Alpha 8 or 9. The question is whether the gap is worse than boring square shaped caverns. I say no but maybe the pendulum has swung the other way on how important the underworld appears....

Gazz just poked a big hole in the plate planter idea.

Options are:

Allow planting of seeds on any terrain block

Upgrade terrain to fertile dirt with a hammer and the right upgrade materials but then your accidentally using nitrate and stuff when repairiing spikes on the ground when you miss and uprgrading dirt by accident in a lot of cases.

Crafting a dirt clod planter block, dig a hole and fill it.

There might have been some terrain shader issues which is why we did this I can't remember. The ground will always be whatever the splat map says it is.

 

[CannedSmeef]

Its a shameless display how people try to be your friend all of a sudden. But we have always been dear, dear friends.
Milk Drinkers...

Yeah, it does seem disingenuous. At least it means people wanna play I guess

 

[Aurelius]

Then your wish came true because Madmole INCREASED biome spawns of zombies at night in the Wasteland. Go forth and get boxed in on a boulder.

This was just in the regular ol' woodlands. Going into the Wasteland at night - that's crazy talk - there are landmines out there!

-A

 

[madmole]

Have y'all considered a little 512 by 512 starter world where players can slowly get introduced to these situations?
I'd be happy to make one in its entirety for you, if I had some assurance that you would stop nerfing the base game for newbies...

No thats just clunky. Make the real game accessible and get right into it.

 

[madmole]

The planter plate first came up as Chiko's suggestion, many pages ago, and already back then Gazz mentioned that planted crops would float 1 meter above them. So yeah, probably not as easy as it sounds.
Personally, I always surrounded my farms with wooden plates just for aestethics.

My bigger concern is that my farm will shrink from six or seven 10x10 fields each with their own crop, down to.. maybe a tenth of that(?) depending on how much rotten flesh can be found. I hope the recipe will be balanced in the end, but hey that's what experimentals are for.

What? I throw away hundreds of rotten flesh and still had 6 stacks at the end of my 100 hour game. Every gore blob, vulture and dog drop it like crazy.