PC Alpha 18 Dev Diary!!
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Pille
Prefab Creator and Great Galactic Imperator
Are you being facetious again?
You can do that with non-dungeon POIs too (so how can this be a reason for less or more dungeon POIs?) and none of your 3 points eliminates the artificial feeling of dungeon POIs. It's still obvious that a lot of the buildings are intentionally constructed as deathtrap. Btw. why would you take an alternative route through a prefab if the intended path is easier to pass through? Because you know it's a deathtrap. Without knowing that, it would be a waste of time and energy from a survivor's point of view to destroy circumventable obstacles.
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madmole
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I used ak and m60. There is no time for head shots or your base will get smashed. Its kind of spray and pray. I need more turrets and traps for sure. No I used 1800 rounds, 800 HP and 900 regular and 100 AP.
I could have tried for more headshots but that thing one shots most zeds so I don't bother. My nick name for it is limb splitter lol.
Once I can craft AP ammo I think I can keep up better. That stuff shoots through zeds so if you line them up you save ammo.
MechanicalLens
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As long as THIS doesn't happen, we should be fine.
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MechanicalLens
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Madmole, you absolute unit! Sure, the horde night cost you greatly (good lucking mining the resources for all that ammo in a week!), but it was an epic battle worthy of song, truly! Awesome job!
P.S. Those demolishers look fantastic, and they sound so ominous and terrifying! They really give you the "oh ♥♥♥♥" vibe.
Roland
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Nope. I really do want most of the POIs to be level designed. I think the ratio right now is about right. I think they are way more interesting and fun than the uncluttered-see-everything-from-the-doorway houses we had before. We probably can’t agree on this point because you don’t like them and find them artificial.
It’s a reason because:
A) you can play dungeon POIs like non dungeon POIs by breaking in through a window or door (like we used to) and loot a few rooms and move on. Fast, easy, old feeling.
B) you cannot play a non dungeon POI like it is a dungeon POI. Can’t be done.
Therefore
C) it’s better to have more A so that discerning players have more freedom to play as either A or B.
Not so. If it is day one and I really just need a cooking pot I can find and loot the kitchens of 3-4 dungeon style homes by going directly for the kitchen. In a real survival situation if I could see the kitchen through the kitchen window and had the means to bust out the window that’s what I would do even if there is an opening into a sketchy basement on the other side of the house. I know this because I do it all the time. I don’t treat the POIs as linear and so they don’t feel linear to me. I always take the path I want and once I have a sledgehammer I really could care less about the lighted path. Sometimes I follow that and sometimes I take down the barricades and go a different way. It is immensely fun.
I’m sorry you didn’t catch the irony of my original post but I am for toughest wasteland cities with the best loot and for about 90% of the POIs being level designed.
But I’m also for improving the level designs and randomizing the good loot around the POI etc. I’m not for more empty barren houses and buildings of the past. Someone actually suggested this past weekend that dungeon POIs should only comprise 20% of the world buildings....ludicrous!
4sheetzngeegles
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That looks like chaos and fun rolled into one. The more i see the more ideas i get
For the crippled leg, is it generic or based on body part hit on player. If so
what about later adding sprained arm which affects stamina while holding big guns.
Although you didnt use them this time if explosives did more damage to stone and dirt.
potholes in my lawn type.
And even though you didnt mean for it to happen, walking in front of a wildly firing turret
should cause the player damage also.
These three things would def change your strategy a bit. Still liked the video, if that happened
on day seven I wouldnt be mad.
For the crippled leg, is it generic or based on body part hit on player. If so
what about later adding sprained arm which affects stamina while holding big guns.
Although you didnt use them this time if explosives did more damage to stone and dirt.
potholes in my lawn type.
And even though you didnt mean for it to happen, walking in front of a wildly firing turret
should cause the player damage also.
These three things would def change your strategy a bit. Still liked the video, if that happened
on day seven I wouldnt be mad.
Guppycur
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"How are these guys getting through my back door!"
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My only wish is that demolishers destroyed blocks with their explosions and not entities. Reverse it. People care more about their ♥♥♥♥ than their health. It'd be more awesome.
So which part did you consider the bow drop moment? The gyro loss? (That was funny)
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My only wish is that demolishers destroyed blocks with their explosions and not entities. Reverse it. People care more about their ♥♥♥♥ than their health. It'd be more awesome.
So which part did you consider the bow drop moment? The gyro loss? (That was funny)
Dimpy
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Wow. Those demolisher zombies are much cooler in action than I expected.
My suggestion for your base is to add a designated panic room/choke point like what you use for your chest room, except it doesn't have anything of value that could get blown up, and there are no ladders that come up from below. Also, it might be useful to have an iron door behind a few key steel doors since they close faster and therefore may save you a few hits.
Laz Man
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It's all a matter of preference. What would be cool is a setting like in project zomboid where you can specify what day it is after the infection. Many of the dungeon POIs have so many pallets in them it feels like costco shortly after the outbreak. Whereas the older pre dungeon POIs felt more barren like a building picked mostly clean many years after the outbreak.
That way loot abundance can instead be controlled by the number of dungeon POIs available versus trying to reduce the amount of loot in containers.
For example, day 356 setting would have mostly barren POIs which would make scavenging more challenging. The devs can add another mechanic where electric lights stop functioning after a certain day making it even more challenging. (Not the user made and generator powered ones)
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Thecolours
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The demolisher character model is so good. Props to the artist and 3d designer.
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