enragedcamel
Refugee
Could this be tied to the cooking skill where each rank reduces risk of food poisoning at least?
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enragedcamel
Refugee
So seeing wires hanging around on a post-apocalyptic survival base is "immersion-breaking", but having electrical stuff work magically with no visible wires wouldn't be?
You have a strange definition of "immersion".
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Yes, exactly. Wire placement and camouflage can be important in PVP.
Viktoriusiii
Refugee
This sounds great! Any way to make food sterile at greater cost? Maybe add nitrate or something?
That would be great. Not needed... But I like that Canned food is now the preffered method of eating. Really changes the flow of foodproduction.
I'm not native... but that is not right eitherhehI thought that spelling was a bit weird... meant "impregnable"
(though since a 'base' is kinda all about "protection" ... well... I -thought- I was safe! lol )
I think what you mean is impenetrable (nothing getting through)
Guppycur
Hunter
So hiding wires would solve a game problem that doesn't exist.
...people's REAL problem is their individual ocd... That's beyond the purview of tfp imo.
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...people's REAL problem is their individual ocd... That's beyond the purview of tfp imo.
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Both are correct.I'm not native... but that is not right either
andrough
Refugee
I think chicken forge should take some real work like trapping chickens and attract zombies quite a bit. Feed crafted from corn or something that must be farmed. Even better if the zombies can attack it (and seek it out with no player in line of sight) down to a destroyed state where the chicken is gone and you need to repair and retrap. Late/later game farms are nice and all, but I like the "get out and work/loot" concept you guys are standing your ground on.
My worthless vote is also on keeping them as is. I always mod in a bunch of "industrial" items and it's cool to have some wires hanging around where you want. The challenge of hiding them is a bonus to me, too. However, if you decide to auto-hide, please include the relays in hiding.
Edit: oh and while we're talking electricity and while I'm adding my voice to the crowd, count me deep in the crowd that is dying for some logic gates. I don't think the minecraft stuff others have requested (mostly auto item management) is realistic or even necessary at all, but some simple stuff would add so much depth.
Finally, speaking of minecraft, how feasible would some sticky pistons be in this game?
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MajorMunchy
Refugee
honestly feel like it's not the wires but the 100s of things they power that lag the game lol
ZombieSurvivor
Banned
EXACTLY! iI hope they are not touched as well. I always have my wires within walls thus never having to see them. it can be a bit tricky but can be done.
FileMachete
Refugee
On hiding wires; well, I gotta admit I kinda like them as is, but only SP here so...
But I am keeping my fingers crossed that Switches stay at zero watts cost (Relays should be also, imho, but I like switches better anyway)
From Wordnik;
"Not pregnable; not to be taken or reduced by force: as, an impregnable fortress"
but also; "Capable of being impregnated, as the egg of an animal, or the ovule of a plant." so yet another English word to confuse folks with :biggrin1:
But I am keeping my fingers crossed that Switches stay at zero watts cost
(Relays should be also, imho, but I like switches better anyway)It may be more of a King's English word choice, or maybe military history speak? Both workI'm not native... but that is not right either
From Wordnik;
"Not pregnable; not to be taken or reduced by force: as, an impregnable fortress"
but also; "Capable of being impregnated, as the egg of an animal, or the ovule of a plant." so yet another English word to confuse folks with :biggrin1:
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ZombieSurvivor
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I'll bet money we will see the release next month unless more bugs pop up or the current bugs are a real issue at fixing.
I'm assuming you've done some extensive testing to back this claim?
I personally have never once seen MP slowed due to wires..... Believe me you I go nuts with wires being everywhere do to my OCD about having a light switch for every room and a switch for just about everything, spot lights, alarms, outer defenses, turrets they all must have an on off switch lol...my friends get annoyed sometimes because of this lol. I've never heard of or ever seen a drop in FPS or server FPS due to wires or any kind of lag.
I'm honestly curious to hear your explaination regarding your claim. thanks
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Lonestarcanuck
Refugee
I liked MM's answer it made me feel warm and fuzzyno... it will show the ones within a set perimeter (pending perk) where you are at.Sorry no Big Red Xs to give it all away.
RipClaw
Hunter
I think madmole wasn't really serious about that. It wouldn't make sense to have to learn how to cook to produce food with worse properties than the food you find.
It would make sense if food spoilage were implemented into the game and the stored food would get worse over time but as far as I know this is not planned.
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Thecolours
Refugee
Love this idea. Sometimes the best ideas are the simplest.
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ZombieSurvivor
Banned
I think this is the first time I've disagreed with you but, I strongly disagree. Seeing wires helps locate a players traps when raiding them or helps locate the power source.
I do agree they serve no purpose in single player or pve though.
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Mechanimal
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Watching you play, experience things first-hand, and make changes as a result, has been really fun btw. I've only been in the forums this much since A17 talk where you just mentioned you didn't do much if any playthroughs, looking back that makes a ton of sense, especially by comparison. Your presence in that forum was very different than it is this time, and the game is getting far better tuned this time as well.
Now that you're into electricity I hope you go looking for a solar bank to set your "late game" electrical system, that was always the peak for me, but I can never ever find the ■■■■ things in A17. Please go far enough to encounter this frustration so that those become less impossible to find, or make the ones in the wild wrenchable, something. I only used them in creative builds in A17, not once in an actual game, where-as they were a common goal, and achievement, in my A16 bases.
Yes please do check them out, spotlights are one of those things I'd acquire and go to install late game on a big fancy base just to be super dissapointed by them. It's more than just their abysmal light output, is also super annoying to point them and try to find a way to not have them interfere and make huge shadows from their own geometry. So a big spotlight cast a wee lil light and blocked most of it with itself, especially if mounted high and looking down.
Watching you play, experience things first-hand, and make changes as a result, has been really fun btw. I've only been in the forums this much since A17 talk where you just mentioned you didn't do much if any playthroughs, looking back that makes a ton of sense, especially by comparison. Your presence in that forum was very different than it is this time, and the game is getting far better tuned this time as well.
Now that you're into electricity I hope you go looking for a solar bank to set your "late game" electrical system, that was always the peak for me, but I can never ever find the ■■■■ things in A17. Please go far enough to encounter this frustration so that those become less impossible to find, or make the ones in the wild wrenchable, something. I only used them in creative builds in A17, not once in an actual game, where-as they were a common goal, and achievement, in my A16 bases.
Hek Harris
Refugee
Please please please... don't remove my wires. They give a real survival aspect to the bases, and it's a nice challenge when you want to hide them.
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